Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Dear Sadakas Pranams The grossness we acquire in this life always take us to innumerable miseries and hardships but the subtleness will take us to God since the quality of the subtle is as like God. Our members can through in this subject and also suggest how to keep our mind subtle always in the feeling of God. Dear Shri Babaji, can you shed some of your thoughts on my earlier post on How to reach the feet of the God with out much delay. thanks for all the members views on my earlier posts I always enjoy writing in this group with love and devotion krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 > Our members can through in this subject and also suggest > how to keep our mind subtle always in the feeling of God. While walking on the road, eating, waiting for/sitting in bus, keep doing your Mantra(any, but Om is best). This must continue non stop. If you do it properly, after some time your subconcious will take up the mantra, & start repeating it for you. Not only is this very good in itself, but this will allow you(once mastered) the power to travel astrally, wilfully.(Astral travel means traveliing to other planes, meeting Devas, Rishis etc). > Dear Shri Babaji, can you shed some of your thoughts on my > earlier post on How to reach the feet of the God with out > much delay. Babaji seems busy, so I'll answer this. There is no fixed method to reach God fast. It depends on your Karma, previous spiritual devlopement etc. Even if you do non-stop Sadhna for 20 years, you might get little or no progress, as your Karma might need to you to live in the world. The Sadhna wont be wasted however, for in some other life, you wil meet an advanced Guru at a very young age(like Vivekanada), & make final jump in just 1 life. Instead of worrying about this, however, you should just continue meditating. Nowdays there are many good books available on Sadhna, really dont need a full time guru(unless you want one to show-off, which is what most people use Gurus for- its a must to have a car, a bungalow & a famous TV Guru!). Just take up any Sadhna you like(Raj Yoga, Dhyan, Bhakti etc, but ideally a combination of these). The value isnt what sadhna you do, but how sincere you are. Remember, water only boils at 100 degree- if you bring it to 99, then leave it as you arent getting any results you will never get boiling water. Its the same with God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 shantnu has beautifully explained it. The mind become subtle when its Tam-guna is removed. Thought waves, desires, anger lust etc keep it busy and keep it gross. Mind is made of pure Raj-guna, hence its natural activity is movement and action. Krishna confirmed in Geeta that it is very very difficult to tame the mind, but not impossible. A saint gave a very good example.. he said consider a monkey who is naughty by nature, consider he has drank lot of alcohol..how much he will be restless, and then some scorpion bite it...and a beautiful she monkey is signing him to come on....Now the condition of that monkey will be horrible... that is the condition of todays humans However with continuous sadhna Tam of mind diminishes, Raja settles down and Sat-guna shines.. it is possible. Kumbhak Pranayama, Vipasana, and Aum sadhna bring the mind under contol fast. Fast progress is a tricky word. It is only possible if an enlghtened soul comes and puts his hand on your head... like Paramhansa did with vivekananda... but higher souls too come to us when we are ready There are three main Granthhis (knots) Brama, Vishnu and Rudra..until these knots are opened, one can not really get enlightenment Surrender is the Key.. because Kaal (time) third most important factor after guru, and shaastra....decides our future. God has fixed a time for our enlightenment and even if we do efforts, god will stop it as He can see the Rin-anubandhas (karmic debts), waiting to be fulfilled. Who know that Great moment is next minute, next hour, next month, next year or next birth. Once sage Narada was going to meet Vishnu, he met a yogi who was meditating for many years. He asked Narada to ask Vishnu when he will get salvation. In the way Narad met a farmer who was working in his fields and was chanting Hari's name. He also asked Narad to ask Vishnu when he would get enlightenment. When Narad came back he first met the yogi and told him that he would get enlightenment in his next birth. Hearing this, the yogi said ok then why should I do sadhna now, let me go home, marry and enjoy. Narad then told the farmers - do you see the tree, after as much birth as much tree leaves are there, after so many births you will get enlightened. Listening this, He started dancing with joy...crying and saying Aha God is so graceful... at least this is certain that I will get Moksha....dancing and chanting he went into samadhi and got immediate enlightenment. This may be just a story but has a great Truth in it...did u get it? with love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 , beirut_ka_baba <no_reply wrote: > > shantnu has beautifully explained it. > > The mind become subtle when its Tam-guna is removed. Thought waves, > desires, anger lust etc keep it busy and keep it gross. > This reminded me of this .... with respect and love binduji ------------ Who is the Self I am the Sitter......... when i sit walking is dormant in me I am the walker------ when i walk sitting is dormant in me... when i move ....... stillness is dormant in me... When i sit, i sit as all those who sit.. just then.. all modes of sitting reside in my sitting. When i walk, i walk as all those walking beings. all modes and styles of walking reside in me. When i see, i see as all those who see. everything seen resides in me. When i hear, i hear all who hear --- All hearing and every sound resides in me. I taste as all who eat, at that moment -- i am the eater of all food, and am eaten also. In my sitting i am awake, i do not have to think of all those others residing in my sitting. When walking, i walk i am present in my walking. i do not think of the countless beings who are walking.... just then. Sleeping, i sleep as all sleepers, i am awake to myself. Conscious of myself, all who are awake are awake in me. I am the Self, residing in myself --- or all unknown I exist in all those who think they are the actors and doers. yet am not known by them ... all in me --- I in them all. Dormant in them, their minds asleep, they do not know me. or a variation........ The Buddha I am the Sitter......... when i sit walking is dormant in me I am the walker------ when i walk sitting is dormant in me... when i move ....... stillness is dormant in me... When i sit, i sit as all those who sit -- just then.. All modes of sitting reside in my sitting. When i walk, i walk as all those walking beings. all modes and styles of walking reside unseen in me. When i see, i see as all those who see. everything seen and unseen resides in me. When i hear, i hear all who hear --- every sound heard and unheard resides in me. I taste as all who eat, at that moment -- I am the eater of all food, and everything eaten also. In my sitting i am awake, i do not have to think of all those others residing in my sitting. When walking, i am present in my walking. i do not think of the countless beings who are walking.... just then. Sleeping, i sleep as all sleepers, i am awake to myself. Conscious of myself, all who are awake are awake in me. I am the Self, residing in myself --- or all unknown; I exist in all those who think they are the actors and doers. yet am not known by them ... all in me --- I in them all. Unseen in them, their minds asleep, they do not know me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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