Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > Hello everyone I have a question on the Gita- when Krishna was Dear Kumar, Gita, when we read, takes a lot of time, but there in the battlefiled, it might have taken a few moments. some people do say that some chapters (reg Sankhya yoga and gyan yoga etc) were later added by Shankracharya... what ever is the truth, Geeta remains a precis of all the Upanishadas.... and a wonderful piece of spirituality. shri Krishna himself was Mahakaal, time was his slave. when he could hide the Sun, for getting Jaydrathh killed, nothing is impossible for Him. also in other dimensions of the universe, we do not observe the time observed by earthlings. Their duration and speed of time is very different at different astral levels. I will site two examples of my own experience. Once during my sadhna, I went into vision stage and reached an astral level, talked to astral being there for almost 30 minutes . On coming back, i was shocked to see that i absented for just a moment...which looked half an hour in another plane of existence. On another occassion, I just saw a momentary vision for about 1 second, and on waking up I found 3 hours have passed. If a beginner sadhaka like me was so ditched by time you can think of God himself teaching geeta to his most dear one!!! So time oberseved by us, has no value at other astral levels. Our perception of time is linked to sun, how long the earth takes to have a round around SUN. This is certainly not the case on other dimensions of existence. Geeta was thus, spoken by Krishna by taking Arjuna to a high Astral plane, where speech is absent. Only telepathic thoughts are transferred from one person to the other. Besides Arjuna, only Sanjay could hear what Krishna was speaking, because he was trained before to be in that transce state, and listen to the conversations held at higher levels... which is called Divya Drishti This is open to questions/suggestions with my Love baba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 True Babaji, thats a good answer! Its obvious Krishn spoke to Arjun in telepathy, as if had spoken out loud, everyone else would have come to hear what was going on, & everyone would have joined in, & there would have been a big debate, where every idiot who had ever read any book could participate(the way it happens in India nowdays)! In fact, Gita would have proably been lost, if it hadnt been for Sanjay, as Krishna refused to re-state it when Arjun asked him to do it for his brothers. So in truth the only person who " heard " the Gita was Dhritrashtra(via Sanjay). I think I posted sometime ago about the 4 levels of speech: Vaikhari is the outspoken word, the lowest speech & used only by most unspiritual people. Madhyama is the mental level of speech. Above that is Pashyanti, where speech is as feelings & impressions. People who understand Pashyanti can understand all languages, even animals language, as all language derive from here. Finally is Para speech, which is what high level Rishis & Devas use. The lower the speech, the more suspectible it is to misunderstanding, which is why the ancient Rishis refused to set things down in writing, as they knew it would get corrupted & twisted around by people. So they helped the student reach a level where he could understand Pashyanti or Para & then told him the Secrets of Hinduism in that. This way there was no misunderstanding, no corruption, no personal opinion. The fact that we have so many commentaries on the Gita, most of which disagree with each other, is due to fact most of the " masters " who wrote these commentaries were working on the lower levels of speech, where doubt, misunderstanding & opinion exist. There is no doubt would have spoken to Arjun in Para speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Hi all, There is also story of Shri Krishna showing the Vishwa Rupa (His real image) during the Gita updesha, which few people like Bheeshma could see, can some one elobrate on it please ? thanks shirish shanracer <no_reply > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 gita as resfered in question is not story but extract of hinduphilosophy to rely in all moment of life not only mahabharat it is unversal truth had it been only told for arjun in mahabharat how come it is now the guideline of all prcticeners of hindu philosophy Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 viswa rupa of god is personification for understaning tha he omnipresebt omniscient and omnipotent that is simplest understanding for almighty god ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 , shirish jorapur <sjorapur wrote: > > Dear Shirish, This happened when shri Krishna visited pre-Mahabhaat war to try for peace and Duryodhana wanted to arrest him. then he showed his viraat swaroop. Only higher souls saw it(Bhishma, vidur,droncharya etc)...others like duryodhan and karan only saw a blazing light and could see nothing. during the war of Mahabharat only Arjuna and sanjay saw viraat swarup, because that was not for every body love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Shirishji, Krishna showed him His real form, as the whole Universe, which can only be seen once your Agya chakra is fully open(in the gita, Krishna gives Arjun divya eyes , - this means Krishna temporarily opened his agya chakra or 3rd eye). Bheesma, Vidur, had through their own Sadhna & Satwik lifestyle opened their 3rd eye, so they could see Krishna in his real form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Shancer / Baba, Was Krishna's Real Form a Vishnu rupa ? (since He was avtar of Vishnu) or was it a Supreme soul ( combination of Brahma/Vishnu/Mahesh) ? Because according to our mythology very few blessed ones had the opportunity to see Him in His real Rupa, otherwise He has always appeared in one of the avatars (incarnation). Thanks, Shirish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 > Was Krishna's Real Form a Vishnu rupa ? (since He was avtar of >Vishnu) or was it a Supreme soul ( combination of Krishna is both- the Universal soul, & the body of the universe. How? This is only known through meditation! The highest being is both in the Universe, & beyond it, at the same time, which makes it so hard to understand him mentally. > Because according to our mythology very few blessed ones had the >opportunity to see Him in His real Rupa, otherwise He has always >appeared in one of the avatars (incarnation). All people who attain enlightenment see the Universal soul(Shiv, Krishna) in its full form. In one second they understand the universe, why it exists, how it works. But they cant explain it to others, which is why most scriptures are written by 2nd class people who had lower attainments/visions. The writers of the Vedas/Upanishads came closest, when they said " I am that " , " That, you are " . I read an interesting thing about knowing God: " Those who know about it, speak not; those who speak, know not " . Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Shree Krishna wanted to show the truth to Arjun only. He was the perfect friend,perfect disciple. It does not matter to God Krishna if some people come up with this idea that this event did not took place. God need not to give the words of wisdom to everybody. , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > Hello everyone I have a question on the Gita- when Krishna was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 hi!kumar i myself hve askd this question many a time,but no favourable reply ,let me tell u what i guess is the answer,its believed that this human world would last until men r of the size of ur thumb,and possess no mere powers,and bhim(pandavas)was as tall as a palm tree,and had the strength of 1000 elephants,so they posses really gr8 powers,one of them which we don't understand must have helped.or lord must have used his powers to silence the battle..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hey!Mr kumar,i asked my cousin d sane question and this was what she told me " The GITA was spoken when the pandavas were in their vanavas.....and arjuna was the only one who took the astras from the peepal tree and was charioteered by lord krishna.....as we all know everything is done under his control....we can say that krishna in order to enlighten the world told geetha....don't make everything logical....think some of the things in life spritually and emotionally.....ok take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 > hi!kumar i myself hve askd this question many a time,but no favourable > reply ,let me tell u what i guess is the answer,its believed that Hi angel there have been many favourable replies to this question, please read the whole thread. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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