Guest guest Posted June 29, 2002 Report Share Posted June 29, 2002 - " Manish Solanki " <yam65 <Ramakrishna > Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:01 [sri Ramakrishna] some questions > > Namaste > > I received some questions from Emma(email address: emzee_17) > She is doing a project on Hinduism, Could you please help her with following > questions? Some replies enclosed.................jay > The authority Structure ie. how its organised? The authority is the God-experience of a great many seers throughout history. The structure is very flexible. > Where Hinduism began? Location: Difficult to pinpoint - as it can be traced to civilisations in many different parts of India. No exact date possible. For the first few thousand years the knowledge was passed on by word of mouth. Start of written records started to appear from around the time of the Indus valley Civilisation. (i.e about 3000BC). Recent discoveries suggest an even more earlier civilisation was in place in other parts of India. > The number of people in the UK and world that are Hindus? The latest census showed that about 500,000 Hindus live in the UK. 70 percent are Gujarati about 15 percent are Punjabi and the rest made of people from other parts of India. > Please reply to me and her direct or post it on the group and i shall email > her the answers. > > Thank you > > Manish > > Swami Vivekananda: > They alone live, who live for others; > the rest are more dead than alive. > > > _______________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.vivekananda.co.uk > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear friends, I had asked 2 questions from Deito, which he never replied. He is so busy with mutual appreciation that while answering my 3rd question he addressed me as Mayandi (Is my name so bad?). Now i have read all these posts here and i put some serious questions. Please reply to it Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic? Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this life? Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious research into the Truth without blindly following ? Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ? I hope i will get reply this time ansuya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: > > Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ? > > ansuya > Dear ansuya, from my side there is a direct NO to yr question. Good Karma can lead to good results and a peacful and comfortable life...and may be heaven after death. Same is with Tapas. Tapasya leads to heaven. Both Good Karma and tapasya, do not lead to Moksha. They may make a basis for doing sadhna...as Sadhna is the only way to get Moksha. Now sadhna can be Bhakti yoga, gyan yoga, raj yoga etc... but finally to get out of clutches of MAYA we have to do sadhna. If a Gyani by reading a few books, thinks he has understood the system and tells he is God.. and thinks he is gyani or if a bhakta by just believing god is with him.. and thinks he is the greatest bhakta....both of them are still imperfect. it is only the sadhna which finally gives bhakti to a gyani and gyan to a bhakta....and Moksha to both Aum PS i will give answer to yr other questions...one by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Dear ansuya, I am so sorry, for that one.. lol... your name is very sweet. forgive your brothers sin .. but you made me smile... i could not help.. . I make an attempt to answer your questions, By his grace. > Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic? Ans : A fanatic is one, who attaches Ego to his belief, which in trun results in unwanted aggressiveness, which makes him completely resistant of higher truths or others forms of the same truth and hence makes his spiritual progress ( or any progress for that matter ) Slow. > Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this > life? We are His parcels, deviated ( puppet is not that right a word to describe us ) and our aim is to realize that he is the one who is running the show, though he is not bound to, and he is doing all this for supporting our decision to go separate and lord over, though that is not our nature and at the same time, also device a plan to remove all our pains and give us our every blissful original form. Our purpose is to Understand him. The purpose of every Path is to Understand him. There are many , paths are many, and i am one of these fallen souls and my path is Bakthi, not by choice but by desire. > Qn 3- Why some people make fun here of those who make serious > research into the Truth without blindly following ? I never do this, if i do such , than i am a sinner , because making fun of people in search of Lord, is big sin, and can be done only in mode of ignorance. Please help us , for making us regret for such a sin, when we do it. For example by mistake or in ignorance if i do such a think, Please correct me Ansuya. > Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ? Good Karma, will make you eligible to walk on the path for Moksha. Which path will you be destined will depend on how good your karma is my dear Ansuya. hope by his grace, i am able to make some sense, and help you in your questions, My dear Sister. Anytime , please poke me , if you contradict on anything above, or if i have done mistake, or You did't understand what i wrote, or i am un-clear in conveying what i intend ( as usual .... lol .. ) -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic? > > Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this > life? > > Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious > research into the Truth without blindly following ? > > Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ? > > I hope i will get reply this time > >Namaste Dear Anusuya. I am sorry, I maybe didnot notice any of your questions except the one on astrology. There is no real fanaticism in my view. This fanaticism I think is only a stepping stone which maybe the bhaktas and gyaanis have to cross as one of the earliest obstacles in my view.For example if someone says that Allah is not God and they arent one and the same it doesnt mean that he is not acknowledging God .It means that he is being blind and ignorant and sooner or later he will cross this obstacle. For second question I will only say that I dont think we are puppets in Gods hands at all. When we say so we are forgetting the greatness of God. To say such a thing is against bhakti or I thimk any other path of yoga The third one- No one an know the truth by following blindly. Everyone gradually learns truths through sadhna alone. You cant make " research " into truth , you can only learn the truth by experience As for the fourth question I will say that karma ie good one directly doesnt lead to moksha but indirectly maybe it does . See what Krishna says- " the diseased, aggreived, those who wish to know gyaana and gyyanis chant me as a result of the good karma of thier previous birth " . So good karma doesnt directly lead to God as baba says but sadhna is that which can lead you to God and that alone I answered according to my limited capabilities so pls forgive and correct me if I am wrong anywhere regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: > Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious > research into the Truth without blindly following ? > ansuya > For the same reason some people make fun of bhaktas for blindly following a faith..... IGNORANCE & SUPERIORITY COMPLEX. A gyani till he develops Bhakti is imperfect gyani A Bhakta till he develops gyan is also imperfect bhakta Real bhaktas do have gyan...real gyan. See Mirabai and Hanumanji... their gyan was not book based but actual wisdom. Devotion without any enquiry is a very basic concept of Bhakti and each bhakta has to start from this point....but if someone is stuck up there and is making fun of those who are making serious enquiry into Truth is simply immaturity. Those who are following correct sadhna develop Bhakti, Gyan and karmayoga together....because there is literally no difference between these points....they may look like starting from different points..but run parallel towards truth...and all of them meet at one point. AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > He is so busy with mutual appreciation that while answering my 3rd > question he addressed me as Mayandi (Is my name so bad?). > > Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic? Winston Churchill said " " A fanatic is someone who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. " > Qn 2 - If we are puppets of god then what is the purpose of this > life? We are not like puppets- a better example is cells. If our cells co-operate we have a good body & health. Cells that dont cooperate are called cancer. Do our blood cells have free will? Yes, they can become cancerous, & refuse to cooperate with body, or they work to keep body alive. Similarly, the only free will we have is to work with the Divine plan, or against it. > Qn 3- Why some peole make fun here of those who make serious > research into the Truth without blindly following ? Paper tigers have to growl louder > Qn 4- Can Good Karma lead to Moksha ? No, but Karma Yoga can. Karma Yoga, whereby one dedicates all actions to God, & continously lives in God conciousness(while eating, walking, working), can lead to Moksha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > A gyani till he develops Bhakti is imperfect gyani > A Bhakta till he develops gyan is also imperfect bhakta > > > Real bhaktas do have gyan...real gyan. See Mirabai and > Hanumanji... their gyan was not book based but actual wisdom. Yes,Babaji I agree. Bhaktas give example of Hanumanji, forgetting he was a Brahm Gyani before he even met Ram. He had mastered all the Vedas, & could defeat any Pandit. Shankaracharya, whose philosphy is dry, intellectual, in the later years of his life(after a meeting with Kashmiri Tantrics, & getting Durgas darshan), became a great Bhakta, & sang & danced on the road. Many of great hymns to the Devi are actually written by him. Chaitnya Mahaprabhu, the Guru of Gaudiya Math( & ISKON), was the most feared logician & debater of his time. One day, he started laughing & dancing on street- he realised the futility of debate & logics. Thats when he got darshan of Krishna. But all these people spent years becoming Gyanis, before they found path of Bhakti was more powerful. But only a true Gyani can have this realisation, not someone who reads it in a book. Like a man climbs the Everest, then says it was nothing, very easy. Another just reads his book, & says " Climbing Everest is easy? So I dont have to do it! " love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > Devotion without any enquiry is a very basic concept of Bhakti and > each bhakta has to start from this point....but if someone is stuck > up there and is making fun of those who are making serious enquiry > into Truth is simply immaturity. > > >THE SO CALLED GYAANIS ALSO MAKE A MOCKERY OF BHAKTAS BY CALLING THIER FAITH BLIND. FAITH IN BHAKTI IS INSTINCTIVE WISDOM AND NOT BLINDLY FOLLOWING ANYTHING.GOD DOESNT ONLY SHOW WAY TO GYAANIS BUT ALSO TO BHAKTAS.HE DIRECTS THEM FROM THE HEART. BY BEING A GYAANI I AM SURE BHAKTAS DONT BECOME FREE OF SENTIMENTS FOR THIER LORD. SO PEOPLE ARE WRONG IN MARKING BHAKTAS AS " FANATICS " .THOSE WHO ARE BHAKTAS LEARN FROM INSIDE AND NOT FROM BOOKS BUT GYAANIS PRESUME THAT ALL BHAKTAS ARE FULL OF " BLIND FAITH AND IGNORANCE " I AM NOT RIDICULING OR ATTACKING ANYONE. JUST SPEAKING A FACT. IF THOSE WHO ARE BHAKTAS DONT HAVE GYYANA THEN THOSE WHO ARE GYYANIS AT ONE POINT DONT HAVE MUCH BHAKTI EITHER.ITS THOSE WHO RIDICULE SENTIMENTS AS IGNORANCE. WHEN DID RADHA MAKE INQUIRIES AND RESEARCHES UPON BRAHM GYAAN?THE DHARMA OF A BHAKTA IS BHAKTI ALONE AND HE SHOULD FOLLOW THE PATH STEADILY BECAUSE THAT PATH WILL LEAD HIM TO EVERYTHING ELSE AUTOMATICALLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit wrote: > > > >THE SO CALLED GYAANIS ALSO MAKE A MOCKERY OF BHAKTAS BY CALLING THIER > FAITH BLIND. FAITH IN BHAKTI IS INSTINCTIVE WISDOM AND NOT BLINDLY Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and contradict me (without understanding it)....She is out to prove Aum is the most ignorant person here .... And she was questioned only once and all hell fell down in sadhna. Ok I agree I am ignorant yet, just a simple sadhaka... should i continue writing OR go back to moderator's job? Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: .. Please reply to it > > Qn 1- What is the correct definition of a fanatic? As per my own views a fanatic is the one who has a closed mind...is not ready to listen/accept new ideas. A fanatic not only rejects other's beliefs..but also forces others to accept his closed ideas. And a fanatic can be anyone...a Bhakta, a gyani even an atheist. Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > Thankyou very much Aum Deito Shanracer and Aradhna for nice replies. So can i take home that women are bettr than men spiritually ? ansuya BTW Where is FARAH, Bala and Senthil ? why are they not posting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: > A1 BLIND FOLLOWERS ARE FANATICS OF ANY WALK OF LIFE A2 WE ARE TO REALIZE GOD PUPPET DONT A3 FOLLOWERSAND RESEARCHERS OF TRUTH ARE ALWAYS ADMIRED IN THIS WORLD A4 MOKSA IS REALIZATION OF NIRVANA BEFORE DEATH AND NOT AFTER ITAND KARM SHOULD BE ON THAT OBJECTIVE OF FINAL GOAL OF OUR LIFE PROF TIWARY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Dear Aum, Please forgive Aradhana, No way she aims at arguing and contradicting with all, and hence it is no offense of her.. she always has the habit of frankly flowing out her views , just like a small baby, out of innocence.. What is does is the result of the Inqusitiveness, of the baby mind, and as result everyone feels, she is contradicting etc. My Dear Sister, i told you so many times... dont make everyone understand when they dont accept.. you telll me what you feel, because i know you nature. god Bless All, May my sister shine like a lotun, in the divine light of hari. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and contradict > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and contradict Aum Oh baba please. I said that I am not contradicting you. Please for God's sake. When did I say you are ignorant? You are much more wise than me!I was speaking in general terms that gyaanis should not scoff at bhaktas faith seeing it as blind because faith isnt blind. Please dont misunderstand. love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , deito01 <no_reply wrote: > >> My Dear Sister, i told you so many times... dont make everyone > understand when they dont accept.. you telll me what you feel, > because i know you nature. > > Thanks BROTHER. I DONT KNOW WHY I SAY SOMETHING ELSE AND THEY TAKE IT AS SOMETHING ELSE! I NEVER INTEND TO INSULT OR PUT ANYONE DOWN! THIS IS AN UNJUST ACCUSATION- I HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK MY MIND. BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS A PROBLEM HERE I BETTER LEAVE BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO BE WHAT I AM NOT. SO I SHOULD LEAVE. GOD BLESS YOU ALL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > Whatever I write here, Aradhna has to ridicule, argue and contradict Dear Aum Should you really care for someone contradicting you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: > > Dear Aum > > Should you really care for someone contradicting you? > Certainly... I dont mind anyone contradicting me. Since I have love for Aradhana like for other sadhakas, i have a duty to point out to her, anything i feel not correct. Everyone has a right to openly write their views....but when others openly express their views, why should one become angry ?? If I take the freedom to write my views freely... I should give this liberty to others too .. This is what i wished to point out. and I am sure Aradhana will take it in right spirits AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Be for me atleast my dear flower. here most of them want to lord over nature, they discuss how to get that siddi , how to merge and become lord.. but i am the other kind.. i done want to lord over anythign nor i want siddi's... i love hari for sake of hari, and i dont mind if i have to again be born human, because for me there is no hell, as everything is created by him, and i can see him everywhere, and i find him always in you.. don't go. -- Your bro Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit wrote: > BE WHAT I AM NOT. SO I SHOULD LEAVE. > GOD BLESS YOU ALL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 > Dear Aum > > Should you really care for someone contradicting you? Aum *is* the moderator. And this is a discussion group, where everyone can share their views. There is a group of people here who just want to copy paste what their Guru told them, or what they read in their favourite scripture last week. They then pat each other back. They dont want any discussion, as they are already Brahm Gyanis. I think I have the perfect solution- We can have Monday & Tuesdays for copy-pasting/patting each other. Rest of the days for normal discussion. Is this ok with everyone? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , deito01 <no_reply wrote: > > Be for me atleast my dear flower. > here most of them want to lord over nature, they discuss how to get > that siddi , how to merge and become lord.. but i am the other kind.. My dear Deito, First let me thank you on behalf of Sadhna community, for making the atmosphere devotional with your beautiful posts. On your comments on people running after siddhis..... you will understand that Lord has not made two people same. Even two leaves of the same tree are never same...there is always minute difference. Everybody can not be like Deito or Like Aum or like Shanracer. Otherwise the very purpose of his Leela will not hold water. The main purpose of Sadhna club is not to make it a Hari Club or Shiva club or ISCKON club, or Vedanti club. We have members from all interests and we encourage all ideas, discuss them and accept what ever suits us. And I must say dear Deito, all are doing their duties very well. None of us has any right to say, the other is wrong and i am right... and i am sure you have already agreed to this in your earlier posts. Gandhi ji said - Those who do not accept your views are not necessarily evils. Let us continue with our sharing AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Revered Ansuya ji, Humble Obeisances! (1) Fanatic- extra enthusiast in respect of religion or politics, we can say person with obsessive enthusiasm in these matters though not thorough in any field. He is careless to make statements with proper proofs/study/ experience and does actions without any aim, just for whim. So while using such words, one should take proper care.(2) It is general convention to say like this. As everybody has to complete his present journey with the capital he has deposited with God in last so many births, according to his deposition he will get imprest to spend. Total accumulation is never disclosed as one may shunn away his present duties/obligations and become lazy to work. Every individual is provided with free will, of which we are talking much, the percentage is only 20, i.e. 1/5th. God has given us ground, physique with sufficient strent, various instruments and various ways/ideas to do work. The fift item 'result' is kept reserved. And that is fate or future we say 'daiva'. He has been advising us to be 'karmayogis' means He tells us to do obligatory or chosen/accepted duties rightly putting 100% involvement (no escapism) and while doing this be connected with Him for all the time. When we accept this theory from Shreemad Bhagavad Gita, we very well conclude that God never says us as 'puttes in My hand' instead influences/promotes us to be right at every level and do as He has stated in Gita. Only shirkers and followers of escapism get themselves called like puppet so that they would not be blamed for their inaction(akarmanyata) or laziness. (4) Good karmas alone never lead one to moksha. Who will decide quality of karma? Quality of karma is decided by " INTENTION BEHIND IT " . Today I will freely supply water to draught affected village and tomorrow when elections come, I will ask villagers to vote for me. Is this good karma? The person appointed in jail to hang up the offenders sentenced to death. He does, though it is not his intention to kill any one. Is this bad karma? Every indivdual is bound to do his assigned duty/karma as per intention of Him. It is to be done for prosperity of culture/habitation/society/ his family and for him and not for God. Only the karmas, apart from obligatory and for physical development, done in the name of God, for the God, with the help of God's intehtion and for children of God, treating them insaperable divine brothers and sisters are good karmas. They are done with disinterest or selflessly. While doing these karmas, every moment, the Royal Guard of the Universe, watches through every eye and heart. A slightest deviation ruins whole thing. And such karmas lead to moksha as they are done for Him and on behalf of Him. I am sorry, I do not know the answer of your 3rd question and I beg your pardon for my ignorance. With heartful regards. = Keshav. Jai Shri Ram. Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 , ansuya80 <no_reply wrote: > > BTW Where is FARAH, Bala and Senthil ? why are they not posting? > Dear sister Thankyou for thinking of me & noticing I have not been around. I have been so busy with other things, but it is good to be back here I can offer my thoughts on your questions if you like... 1. A FANATIC is someone who shows excessive & often misguided enthusiasm for something. They are often narrow minded & ignorant. Im sure we have all experienced a person of this nature before. Did you see the brilliant film 'My Son The Fanatic?' where Om Puri played the part of the father? This is a wonderful example of how fanaticism can take over someone's life if the individual concerned has that type of 'easily led' nature. (I didn't want to bring up the delicate subject of Muslim terrorists - but I have to say, I feel these are the types they go for - someone who is lacking in intelligence, cannot think for themselves & be an individual.) 2. PUPPETS OF GOD. I dont believe we are puppets of God. If that were the case, we would not have the need to think for ourselves & use the privilege of free will. I do, however, believe in a divine plan, a blueprint, destiny. The way I see it is this - it's like having a map. Deep down in the core of your being you know which way is the right way to go, but essentially you do have free will & can stray from the correct path if you choose. You just have to bear in mind you may get lost or bitten by a snake. These are the consequences that happened as a result of the choice you made. Im sure we have all been lost & bitten by a few snakes. 3. MAKING FUN. In my opinion, anyone who comes on here to make fun of anyone, should seriously think twice before they post their answer. I come on here to share, learn, discuss & exchange views with both like minded individuals & also individuals who have a totally different perspective to me on any given subject. To me, it shouldn't be about who is right & who is wrong - but rather " this is what I think " or " this is what I feel " & have the openness to accept we are all different & so will have many different thoughts on things. Personally, it is fine when someone agrees with me, or thinks that what I have said is worthwhile. But it is even better when someone disagrees with me, or questions what I have said - this is where learning takes place. It could be my learning, their learning, or both. Surely that's what this site is all about. Mocking, name calling, finger pointing, accusing, threats to leave, beggings to stay - dear oh dear - some days there is enough drama on here to write a new soap opera!! Believe me, I welcome humour on this site - but sometimes it just tips into the realms of something quite negative & there is really no need. As I have said before, I believe there is a loving way to say almost anything... & I also believe there is enough love & respect between us to be able to achieve that with some effort from us all. 4. CAN GOOD KARMA LEAD TO MOKSHA? This is a difficult one for me as my knowledge of Moksha is limited. I can only share with you what I think & feel - & I certainly have no problem holding my hands up & saying I don't know or understand something. My understanding of Moksha is that it is only something that can happen in the mind. Is it not the mind alone that is responsible for either the bondages we have, or the freedom we can have from these bondages? My knowledge of Moksha is that it is liberation of the soul, freedom from limitations & freedom from any 'body identification.' Im struggling to see the link between a concept surely concerned with an individual's perception of these things (ie in the mind) - and 'good karma' which is concerned with actions. There doesn't seem to be a direct link to me. I can, however, see that (as Aum said) all these things run parallel & are all threads leading in the same direction. So my sister, these are my thoughts & now I am writing way too much! See what happens when I am away for a day or two! Well, I had to respond - especially when you wrote my name in CAPITALS!! :-) With much love Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 > for Aradhana like for other sadhakas, i have a duty to point out to > her, anything i feel not correct. > > Everyone has a right to openly write their views....but when > others openly express their views, why should one become angry ?? > > If I take the freedom to write my views freely... I should give > this liberty to others too .. This is what i wished to point out. first you say I am contradicting you, ridiculing you and what not and now that I am taking others " liberty " .May I know what your thoughts are? I express my views and everyone has a problem.Thats fine but I should keep repeating words like a parrot to make others happy!? Hope you have no problem with this one now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 they discuss how to get > that siddi , how to merge and become lord.. but i am the other kind.. > i done want to lord over anythign nor i want siddi's... > > i love hari for sake of hari, and i dont mind if i have to again be > born human, because for me there is no hell, as everything is created > by him My dear bro I have great regards for your devotion and also your compassion towards other people.Those who love Hari are compassionate. You are so right brother bhaktis aim is servitude and sacrifice alone and nothing else.The one who aims for sidhdhis and moksha and does bhakti for that isnt real lover of God. Bharat says -like a chaatak its o.k for me if I keep loving Rama irrrespective of whether the cloud showers stones or thunders.I dont want dharma, artha, kaam, moksha only I want bhakti in each life dont worry for me dear brother, my Guruji has taught me to bear Here is a hymn of Mira for you and all bhaktas -: Koi kaheyu teney kaheve re daiye aapne Haribhajanma rahiye re, jagtane bhagatne saday vair chche tema bhaktpanu tey kone kahiye re bhaktpanu jab janiye aapney suhna bhenla sahiye re hira n kankar ek ja ranga tema Haripanu te kauney kahiye re hira apnu jab janiye apne dhavat dhandera sahiye re mira ke prabhu Girdharna gun aapney charankamal chit dhariye re Let the worldly people criticise our devotion, we should not loose faith in singing the glory of Lord Hari who removes all our suffering The physical world and its pleasures are always in stark contrast to yhe life of a devotee.To whom shall we talk of devotion when the rest of the world is after ritualistic values? As we know and fel the devotion and love of Krishna, we must bear the evil words, thoughts and actions against us by those who dont know devotion When a diamond looks like another peice of rock, how can we convey the worth of a real diamond (devotion) to someone who is totally immersed in worthless attributes? As we recognise the value of a real diamond, devotion, God gives us the srength to put up with the strange ways and means of worldly people Miras lord is Girdhar Naagar, keep your mind absorbed in his lotus feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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