conversation between siddha and bhakta

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conversation between siddha and bhakta

 

 

bhakta: Once you have said that Shiva is satvika guna, brahma is

tamasa guna and vishnu is rajasa guna. But many say otherwise.

 

Siddha: What do they say?

 

Bhakta (B): They say that shiva is the tamasa guna, vishnu is satvika

and brahma is rajasa guna.

 

Siddha: A man is a mixture of gunam. But Iraivan contains all these,

yet it is beyond this also. It is the reservoir of all possibilities.

What is, what will be, which can be imagined, which is beyond

comprehension, all these things are contained in Iraivan proper. As

such the gunam of tamasam refers to one who is enmeshed in blatant

selfishness. He enjoys at others expense and has no sense of

responsibility nor accountability. This is the grossest. The raja

gunam is one who strives to live with plenty in the world. But he

makes own effort and has some inherent goodness. The satvikam is one

who upholds truth at any cost, even at the cost of one's own

wellbeing, this is the sacrifice without expectations. Hence it is

satgunam. What is meant is Shivan is the destroyer of tamasya gunam.

Vishnu is the sustainer of one's satgunam, and Brahma helps one live

in rajagunam yet unattached to its vice. As such all are mumoorthy

alone. None is lower to another. Yet there is another deeper

significance to this as what I've said. You must understand that

Shivan, Vishnu and Brahma has deeper meanings regarding one's own

state. This is where Shivan is satgunam, Vishnu is rajagunam and

Brahma tamasagunam. As such we must know what shivan, vishnu and

brahma symbolizes.

 

B: Yes, what is it?

 

Siddha: Shivan is the sindhuvil irupavan. It is where one reaches

mukthi. It is gained when one reaches sahasaram (sindhu) which is in

the head and likened as the mountain which is the highest peak of

earth just as head is the topmost part of one's body. As such he is

in the himalayas. He has ashes all over his body. He is said to dwell

in the graveyard. The graveyard is irulkadu, it is known as sudukadu

also. The 'kadu' is one's own body. When the soul inhabits it, it is

hot (sudu). Thereafter man using the body does this and that. He

creates caste, creed and discrimination. He discriminates according

to class (between have's and have nots). Once the soul leaves the

body, it will become darkness. Can you see without the eyes?

 

B: No.

 

Siddha: What will happen when you die? How will you see without the

eyes? As such it will become Irul (darkness). It is the decree of

Iraivan that one should get shakti from jadam (body) to think, work

and act. One should use this shakti and get Iraivan. Rather most use

this shakti to further life in Mayai. But when we die, there will be

no distinction between class, creed and religion. All will become one

(equal) only. To know this equality when one is alive, one has to get

mukthi. For this the mind has to merge into OM. That which must burn

for this to occur is the anavam. So this is the burnt ash and of

being in the graveyard where equality reigns. Only by doing this one

gets kumbhakam in dhyanam. Thereafter one will understand the power

of swasam, viswasam and niswasam. These are the three marks of namam

and tilak. By focussing on the forehead there will be pulsating at

this point. This is the sulimunai. Thereafter the atma merges here,

while the manam merges from moolam (base of spine). Both meet at the

back of head (pidarikan) and one gets atma jnanam. Only in OM Mayai

moves and one gets a glimpse of oneself. Thereafter one enters the

centre of head and reach ucchi (top of head). Here one gains the

vision of jagadamba. The movement of mind through the spine will be

like a snake or fish. It is because of one having two hemispheres

only. So Shivan is adorned with snakes. This is because the mind

which moves in a zig zag way towards sindhu. Initially this is

experienced by sadhakas as body swaying and head falling backwards.

They put automatic mudras also. But since the buddhi has not merged

they will not know the significance of this. The shivalingam also has

the lingam which is singular. It denotes the singular Iraivan. To

reach it the yoni (manam) must subside in it. The manam has four

parts, it is manam (awareness), buddhi (intellingence), chittam

(likes and dislikes) and anavam (selfish ego). This is the four

parts. One must be discarded, which is the anavam. As such it becomes

three quarter (mukal). So with the aid of mantram, one concentrates

the mind and enters OM. Thereafter one will know oneself as whole. So

the mantram is the quarter (kal). Hence they have the

saying, 'mantram kal, mathi mukal'. Mathi is mind proper. By reaching

the singular Iraivan (lingam) the mind thereafter flows back to the

world again. This is the yoni which clasps at the base of lingam.

Without understanding such many have made the lingam a phallic

symbol. Must creation always involve sex? Bacteria breeds and

multiplies by the process of mitosis. In fact most of our bodily

cells multiply and repair themselves through this process. So how can

creation be wholly sexual? Man creates things with his mind. He does

car, rocket and many other things, is there anything sexual in it?

 

B: No, but there's nothing wrong in sexuality.

 

Siddha: Yes, true. But do we behave such. Let me ask you something,

do you like to be labelled as a voracious eater, a greedy glutton?

 

B: No, I don't liked to be called a greedy pig. I eat whatever I get.

I am not particular.

 

Siddha: Do you fantasize about the food you eat for weeks?

 

B: Ha, ha, no.

 

Siddha: So why harp on sex? It is just a bodily need. It is like your

hunger for food also. As such one doesn't understand the true meaning

of lingam. When we grow older we are not attached to the dolls and

playthings when we were children, it is likewise also for sex. The

child feels happiness playing with his toys, the adult feels

happiness with other things. The atma is the same only. If one is

born as a dog, one will definitely be attracted to another dog. Born

as human we will be attracted to another human. The joy of sex is the

same, only the form has differed. Hence understand the power of

Mayai, this is the Shakti of Shivan. There is a water pot they place

on top of the lingam, have you seen it?

 

B: Yes.

 

Siddha: So what happens when the water drips?

 

B: Its like semen?

 

Siddha: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

 

B: Why are you laughing, have I told anything wrong?

 

Siddha: No, it just shows your mind. The semen leaks from the penis.

It doesn't drip on it. But here we have water dripping on it.

 

B: So, it washes the dirt away?

 

Siddha: Yes, as such no dirt sticks to it. This is the symbolization.

The clean thing is the satgunam. The same shivan who burns anavam and

thereafter attains the vision of equality is satgunam. To achieve

this one must do dyanam. As such shivan teaches one through his own

posture in samadhi. This is the sadasivan. Only then the mind will

quieten and one can focus it one one's own Self. Do you understand?

 

B: Yes, but how about Vishnu?

 

Siddha: The Vishnu is the king. As such Rama and Krishna were kings

also. The king has richness and opulence. As such Vishnu's consort is

Lakshmi. Who is said to sustain the world and protect it?

 

B: Vishnu?

 

Siddha: Vishnu the king takes care of its people. It is the duty of

the king or government to sustain the country and protect its

citizen. The king is the raja. As such Vishnu is raja gunam alone. In

truth Vishnu is also known as 'hari'. It is the 'ari'. This is

the 'arigaravai' (the one which knows). As such it denotes the mind

proper. It is also known as shakti. It is the mohini. It is one which

gives 'inimai' (happiness/sweetness) and makes one infatuated with

the world (moha), hence the term moh-ini. The atma is that which

gives the sense of 'I'. It is the 'arigiravan' (the one who knows).

It is that who knows the content of the mind. The mind by entering

the world wants to live in opulence and plenty. Is this not true? It

wants to be successful..am I not right?

 

B: Yes.

 

Siddha: Hence the rajagunam. It is from the mind that anavam stems.

As such Brahma is said to be born from vishnu. The jivatma are born

in the womb of mother. This is so for the human form. Only through

human form one has the buddhi in which one conquers the world or the

Self. As such to denote the jivatma incarnating as human, Brahma

which denotes the state of jivatma in the world is born from the

navel of vishnu. The Brahma has four faces. These denote manam,

chittam, buddhi and anavam. If I ask you to think without using

sound, can you do so?

 

B: Maybe its difficult..

 

Siddha: In truth to think deeply about something you must use sound,

even if you were talking in your head. As such one's own content of

mind is known to oneself through this sound alone. Maybe you can

think by forms. But when the questions get deeper, it is by sound

alone one thinks deeply. As such the rhythmic sound is denoted by

Saraswathy. She produces melody with the veenai. This is the

relationship between cause and effect, it is not chaos. As such

Brahma as jivatma needs sound (saraswathy) to understand the content

of his own mind. This is the meaning.

 

B: Oh, I see.

 

Siddha: In days of yore, one prayed to this symbolization of Brahma.

But after a certain class of people appropriated this deity as

belonging to themselves, the siddhars prevented the people from

attending temples devoted to Brahma. As such the temples of Brahma

dwindled in India. This was different to those temples which spread

before this event. As such the temples in Indonesia, Burma, Thailand

and Malaysia have the deity of Brahma. These are very old temples and

known as Angkor. These were built by Indian voyagers very early in

history. Till today their influence is felt. The Malay language has

many words like 'iswara, bumi, agama, putra, isteri, wira and others.

Their bride and groom are called as mempelai, its a corruption

of 'mapilai'. Their ceremony of sprinkling the 'pannir', throwing

yellow rice and the likes are similar only. But thereafter someone

prevented sailing the seas by saying one will lose one's caste. As

such many trades suffered. By segregeating the people, the working

class did not intermingle and sharing of knowledge became nil. Due to

this non sharing, technology did not grow as one group couldn't make

use of another group's discoveries. Thereafter the world had to wait

for another race (whites) which took to the seas. These came to India

due to hearing of her greatness only. By wrongly landing on the

Americas they labelled the Apachi's and the Aztec south americans as

Indians also. However so, we have become much degraded due to our own

selves. Even though many cultures learnt languages from us, learnt

religion and so on, we became backward. Mother and father is a

corruption of matha and pitha only. The indian says sunday is from

the graham of suryan - sun. The monday is of chandran - moon. The

english have this word in the way they name the day itself, sun-day

and moon-day. Saniswaran is the planet saturn only. He is associated

with saturday. Is not that saturn-day? The buddhist religion of

chinese and japanese are from Indians alone. But look at our state

now. So understand that whoever uses his buddhi rules. Likewise use

your buddhi. True love comes from true understanding only. This true

understanding denotes buddhi. If not one will become like the one who

cloved his father's head with an axe when the latter asked him to get

rid of a mosquito on the head.

 

(Silence)

 

It is due to this only that we have the term hariharan. This

hariharan (ayappan) and haroharan (murugan) are the same. It is the

state of Murugan. It is where one gets the palam (fruit) of jnanam.

As such one becomes the palam (palani) and attains the real benefit

(palan). The hari and haran merging in OM is what is meant. Here hari

is the mind and haran the atma. The selfsame mind is symbolized as

sakthi, vishnu and moon. Likewise the atman is the shivan and sun.

The mind knows the world through the five senses. This is the five

headed serpent. The mind fills the body like water fills the vessel.

The body grows from child to adulthood. Yet the same mind fills it

all tha same. The five senses are also symbolized by the weapon

Vishnu holds as mace, cakram, conch and flower.

 

B: What does it mean?

 

Siddha: The mace is in the shape of the nose. It denotes the sense of

smell. It is also a weapon used by holding in hand. This denotes the

sense of touch. The conch brings out sound when blown. This is the

sense of hearing. To blow one puts one's mouth upon it. By it one

tastes it. This is because one taste's a thing by putting it into the

mouth alone. As such this is the sense of taste. The cakram is the

rotating thing and emmits light. The eyes can rotate all around to

see. It needs light to see also. As such the cakram symbolizes the

senses of sight. All these are the five senses. Through this only one

knows the world regardless of race and gender. By knowing the world

one's anavam stems forth. This is the flower Vishnu holds.

 

B: What about the weapon Shivan holds?

 

Siddha: I think I have already told you about the fire (form) and

drum (sound). Through the senses one knows the form of the world.

Thereafter one names it as such and such and understands its

interaction. The trident is the three bodies. It is the aviudal,

manaudal and antarakaranaudal. Only when three bodies mature in

Sindhu one gets poornajnanam. The aviudal makes one aware of spirit

beings. The manaudal's maturity gives one enna arivu or the strength

of conscience and willpower. It gives one strength to hold on to the

truth. More than that it gives the power of unwavering concentration

to focus the mind. The antarakaranudal gives knowledge of spiritual

tatwam. One can know about past, present and future according to the

will of Iraivan. But in truth all these are not the reason one seeks

to know the Iraivan. Seek it for its sake and you will understand. If

you seek it with ulterior motives you will not gain it. Understand

that it is the core of your heart and knows you better than yourself.

This three time of Kalam is also the trident, it is the three gunas

also and most importantly it is the swasam, viswasam and niswasam.

 

B: Please tell me more about this last.

 

Siddha: A little at a time. Remind me when you see me next time.

Digest what I have said first and do not hesitate to ask me anything.

 

(to be continued).