Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Jai Sai Ram, I really loved this simple message of yours...It makes a very important point... Sister, I would like to ask you a question in relation to this. Please answer whenever you have time. In fact, anyone out there who would like to share their thoughts on this then I request you to do so. The story you have given below from the Shri Sai Satcharita also shows pretty much clearly that Baba just wanted us to open our heart in front of him in whatever way we want and even if it meant that he had to suffer a bit for it then he didn’t care because he is more thirsty for our love. In this context, if the management of any particular Shri Sai Baba temple wants the devotees to not: - Go beyond a particular area to get closer to Baba’s moorti, or - Not touch hands on Baba’s feet or face with love, or - Not to kiss Baba’s feet or hands, or - Any other rules in these lines which seem to have been okay for Baba before his Mahasamadhi, however, they are not practiced now. Would it be liked by Baba? At one side I think that such discipline is very important for a temple, but at other side, when I read your email I thought that Baba would have definitely allowed such things because the devotees’ love was involved which was more important to him than causing Baba inconvenience. I understand that a balance is an ideal thing, however, how should we find such a balance?? Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong. May Baba bless all, Jai Sai Ram to all. On Behalf Of Anitha Kandukuri Saturday, 16 June 2007 7:15 AM Cc: Message for the week. Sairam, I have noticed that my mails have been bouncing hence the messages I sent did not go through. I apologise for the inconvenience caused. Here is the message for week. Anitha Kandukuri <a_kandukuri Cc: , , saileela99 Message for the week Friday, 15 June 2007 9:42:55 AM Sairam, Wish you all a happy baba's day to you all. Worship - we all do that dont we. We pray to BABA. We have set time in a day when we engage in communion with God. Often some of us - due to play of Maya and flattery of Ego feel that our mode of worship is superior to that of our friend or neighbour. We feel we do a better job in worshiping BABA. Does BABA approve of such behaviour? No, never, HE wanted pure love, humbleness, and faith. HE does not care about formality or method or elaboratnes involved in HIS pooja. He is a worshipper of simple people and simple thoughts. Here is an example of his response to others rebuke in offering service to BABA.... Baba's Characteristics -- His Dependency on Bhaktas Baba allowed His devotees to serve Him in their own way, and did not like any other persons interfering in this. To quote an instance, the same Mavsibai was on another occasion, kneading Baba's abdomen. Seeing the fury and force used by her, all the other devotees felt nervous and anxious. They said, " Oh mother, be more considerate and moderate, otherwise you will break Baba's arteries and nerves " . At this Baba got up at once from His seat, dashed His satka on the ground. He got enraged and His eyes became red like a live charcoal. None dared to stand before or face Baba. Then He took hold of one end of the Satka with both hands and pressed it in the hollow of his abdomen. The other end He fixed to the post and began to press His abdomen against it. The satka which was about two or three feet in length seemed all to go into the abdomen and the people feared that the abdomen would be ruptured in a short time. The post was fixed and immovable and Baba began to go closer and closer to it and clasped the post firmly. Every moment the rupture was expected, and they were all dismayed, did not know what to do, and stood dumb with wonder and fear. Baba suffered this ordeal for the sake of His Bhakta. The other devotees wanted only to give a hint to the Mavsibai to be moderate in her service and not cause any trouble or pain to Baba. This they did with good intention, but Baba did not brook even this. They were surprised to see that their well-intentioned effort had resulted in this catastrophe; and they could do nothing but to wait and see. Fortunately, Baba's rage soon cooled down. He left the satka and resumed His seat. From this time onward, the devotees took the lesson that they should not meddle with anybody but allow him to serve Baba as he chooses. He was capable to gauge the merits and worth of the service rendered unto Him. Chapter 24 Satcharita BABA bless us and guide us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Sairam Saurabh, Mind you, Shirdi Sai BABA's temples are the only places where any devotee from any caste can touch His moorti unlike the moortis of other gods and godesses where only people belonging to Brahmin caste are allowed into the sanctum sanitorium (irrespective of whether they eat meat or not). With growing BABA's devotees any number of temples is not enough to satiate peoples thirst for touching Baba's moorthy. If people were given a chance they would selfishly sit in front of BABA or hold on to HIS feet depriving others the opportunity to worship or stand in front of Him. Hence the reason for discipline and long queues and shortage of time to stand in front of BABA either in Shirdi or Tirupati. Baba allowed people to worship Him as they pleased, but He was amicable to change with change in circumstances. Earlier before devotees thronged Dwarakamai, BABA used to beg His food but gave it up when people started bringing food which would suffice entire Shirdi. With growing devotee population it is responsibility of temple management to enforce rules and regulations to enable a harmonious atmosphere in the temple which would enable all devotees to have darshan of BABA. Also in foriegn countries it is all the more important to put a restrain to number of people accessing BABA's moorthy, if there were any falls and accidents, believe me whether a devotee or not people do not mind suing Baba (temple) for the damages. This has practically happened and I am not lying to you. In such circumstances dicipline in temples is must ensure proper service of diety and devotee. In other words it is "you" and "me" who are the cause for how the temples are run now a days putting all the reservations aside. Hope this answers your question. No pun intended here, I am merely trying to state the facts as I see them happen in temples. Humble pranams sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra "Saurabh Patel" <mystic_saurabh To: CC: ,<sourabh.nigam,<suraj_n_suvarna,<muraliraja1919,<rkoneru234,<rabbineniRE: Message for the week.Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:49:59 +1000 Jai Sai Ram, I really loved this simple message of yours...It makes a very important point... Sister, I would like to ask you a question in relation to this. Please answer whenever you have time. In fact, anyone out there who would like to share their thoughts on this then I request you to do so. The story you have given below from the Shri Sai Satcharita also shows pretty much clearly that Baba just wanted us to open our heart in front of him in whatever way we want and even if it meant that he had to suffer a bit for it then he didn’t care because he is more thirsty for our love. In this context, if the management of any particular Shri Sai Baba temple wants the devotees to not: - Go beyond a particular area to get closer to Baba’s moorti, or - Not touch hands on Baba’s feet or face with love, or - Not to kiss Baba’s feet or hands, or - Any other rules in these lines which seem to have been okay for Baba before his Mahasamadhi, however, they are not practiced now. Would it be liked by Baba? At one side I think that such discipline is very important for a temple, but at other side, when I read your email I thought that Baba would have definitely allowed such things because the devotees’ love was involved which was more important to him than causing Baba inconvenience. I understand that a balance is an ideal thing, however, how should we find such a balance?? Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong. May Baba bless all, Jai Sai Ram to all. On Behalf Of Anitha KandukuriSaturday, 16 June 2007 7:15 AM Cc: Subject: Message for the week. Sairam, I have noticed that my mails have been bouncing hence the messages I sent did not go through. I apologise for the inconvenience caused. Here is the message for week. Anitha Kandukuri <a_kandukuri (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Cc: (AT) groups (DOT) msn.com, , saileela99 Message for the week Friday, 15 June 2007 9:42:55 AM Sairam, Wish you all a happy baba's day to you all. Worship - we all do that dont we. We pray to BABA. We have set time in a day when we engage in communion with God. Often some of us - due to play of Maya and flattery of Ego feel that our mode of worship is superior to that of our friend or neighbour. We feel we do a better job in worshiping BABA. Does BABA approve of such behaviour? No, never, HE wanted pure love, humbleness, and faith. HE does not care about formality or method or elaboratnes involved in HIS pooja. He is a worshipper of simple people and simple thoughts. Here is an example of his response to others rebuke in offering service to BABA.... Baba's Characteristics -- His Dependency on Bhaktas Baba allowed His devotees to serve Him in their own way, and did not like any other persons interfering in this. To quote an instance, the same Mavsibai was on another occasion, kneading Baba's abdomen. Seeing the fury and force used by her, all the other devotees felt nervous and anxious. They said, "Oh mother, be more considerate and moderate, otherwise you will break Baba's arteries and nerves". At this Baba got up at once from His seat, dashed His satka on the ground. He got enraged and His eyes became red like a live charcoal. None dared to stand before or face Baba. Then He took hold of one end of the Satka with both hands and pressed it in the hollow of his abdomen. The other end He fixed to the post and began to press His abdomen against it. The satka which was about two or three feet in length seemed all to go into the abdomen and the people feared that the abdomen would be ruptured in a short time. The post was fixed and immovable and Baba began to go closer and closer to it and clasped the post firmly. Every moment the rupture was expected, and they were all dismayed, did not know what to do, and stood dumb with wonder and fear. Baba suffered this ordeal for the sake of His Bhakta. The other devotees wanted only to give a hint to the Mavsibai to be moderate in her service and not cause any trouble or pain to Baba. This they did with good intention, but Baba did not brook even this. They were surprised to see that their well-intentioned effort had resulted in this catastrophe; and they could do nothing but to wait and see. Fortunately, Baba's rage soon cooled down. He left the satka and resumed His seat. From this time onward, the devotees took the lesson that they should not meddle with anybody but allow him to serve Baba as he chooses. He was capable to gauge the merits and worth of the service rendered unto Him. Chapter 24 Satcharita BABA bless us and guide us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Sairam Anitha akka, Thank you very much for your email – it clearly answers my Question and I am happy that I will be able to see it in a different way now. Actually I was not aware about a lot of things that you have discussed in your email about only Brahmins allowed to touch the moorti’s of certain other non-Sai Baba temples etc...Also with other things like people can sue the temple’s management and people can sit there selfishly in front of Baba for hours without giving others any chance...I see the point now. I have not paid attention to any other temple in detail except Baba’s and that too I started it only four years ago. I am glad I asked the Q because I can now use this principle to clear a lot of other Q’s I had in mind. And one more thing: I had never noted in my Shri Sai Satcharita reading that Baba also adapted according to circumstances (stopped his begging rounds to meet devotees)...I used to think if Baba didn’t have problem then why should we have problem with letting devotees to touch his moorti – but yes the circumstances are different now... My thinking is conditioned with only my past experiences (as is usually the case) and I am glad that I am able to see it according to today’s circumstances for this case. Thank you again, May Baba bless all, Jai Sai Ram to all On Behalf Of Anitha Kandukuri Sunday, 17 June 2007 9:14 AM Cc: ; ; saileela99 RE: Message for the week. Sairam Saurabh, Mind you, Shirdi Sai BABA's temples are the only places where any devotee from any caste can touch His moorti unlike the moortis of other gods and godesses where only people belonging to Brahmin caste are allowed into the sanctum sanitorium (irrespective of whether they eat meat or not). With growing BABA's devotees any number of temples is not enough to satiate peoples thirst for touching Baba's moorthy. If people were given a chance they would selfishly sit in front of BABA or hold on to HIS feet depriving others the opportunity to worship or stand in front of Him. Hence the reason for discipline and long queues and shortage of time to stand in front of BABA either in Shirdi or Tirupati. Baba allowed people to worship Him as they pleased, but He was amicable to change with change in circumstances. Earlier before devotees thronged Dwarakamai, BABA used to beg His food but gave it up when people started bringing food which would suffice entire Shirdi. With growing devotee population it is responsibility of temple management to enforce rules and regulations to enable a harmonious atmosphere in the temple which would enable all devotees to have darshan of BABA. Also in foriegn countries it is all the more important to put a restrain to number of people accessing BABA's moorthy, if there were any falls and accidents, believe me whether a devotee or not people do not mind suing Baba (temple) for the damages. This has practically happened and I am not lying to you. In such circumstances dicipline in temples is must ensure proper service of diety and devotee. In other words it is " you " and " me " who are the cause for how the temples are run now a days putting all the reservations aside. Hope this answers your question. No pun intended here, I am merely trying to state the facts as I see them happen in temples. Humble pranams sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra " Saurabh Patel " <mystic_saurabh CC: ,<sourabh.nigam,<suraj_n_suvarna,<muraliraja1919,<rkoneru234,<rabbineni RE: Message for the week. Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:49:59 +1000 Jai Sai Ram, I really loved this simple message of yours...It makes a very important point... Sister, I would like to ask you a question in relation to this. Please answer whenever you have time. In fact, anyone out there who would like to share their thoughts on this then I request you to do so. The story you have given below from the Shri Sai Satcharita also shows pretty much clearly that Baba just wanted us to open our heart in front of him in whatever way we want and even if it meant that he had to suffer a bit for it then he didn’t care because he is more thirsty for our love. In this context, if the management of any particular Shri Sai Baba temple wants the devotees to not: - Go beyond a particular area to get closer to Baba’s moorti, or - Not touch hands on Baba’s feet or face with love, or - Not to kiss Baba’s feet or hands, or - Any other rules in these lines which seem to have been okay for Baba before his Mahasamadhi, however, they are not practiced now. Would it be liked by Baba? At one side I think that such discipline is very important for a temple, but at other side, when I read your email I thought that Baba would have definitely allowed such things because the devotees’ love was involved which was more important to him than causing Baba inconvenience. I understand that a balance is an ideal thing, however, how should we find such a balance?? Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong. May Baba bless all, Jai Sai Ram to all. On Behalf Of Anitha Kandukuri Saturday, 16 June 2007 7:15 AM Cc: Message for the week. Sairam, I have noticed that my mails have been bouncing hence the messages I sent did not go through. I apologise for the inconvenience caused. Here is the message for week. Anitha Kandukuri <a_kandukuri Cc: , , saileela99 Message for the week Friday, 15 June 2007 9:42:55 AM Sairam, Wish you all a happy baba's day to you all. Worship - we all do that dont we. We pray to BABA. We have set time in a day when we engage in communion with God. Often some of us - due to play of Maya and flattery of Ego feel that our mode of worship is superior to that of our friend or neighbour. We feel we do a better job in worshiping BABA. Does BABA approve of such behaviour? No, never, HE wanted pure love, humbleness, and faith. HE does not care about formality or method or elaboratnes involved in HIS pooja. He is a worshipper of simple people and simple thoughts. Here is an example of his response to others rebuke in offering service to BABA.... Baba's Characteristics -- His Dependency on Bhaktas Baba allowed His devotees to serve Him in their own way, and did not like any other persons interfering in this. To quote an instance, the same Mavsibai was on another occasion, kneading Baba's abdomen. Seeing the fury and force used by her, all the other devotees felt nervous and anxious. They said, " Oh mother, be more considerate and moderate, otherwise you will break Baba's arteries and nerves " . At this Baba got up at once from His seat, dashed His satka on the ground. He got enraged and His eyes became red like a live charcoal. None dared to stand before or face Baba. Then He took hold of one end of the Satka with both hands and pressed it in the hollow of his abdomen. The other end He fixed to the post and began to press His abdomen against it. The satka which was about two or three feet in length seemed all to go into the abdomen and the people feared that the abdomen would be ruptured in a short time. The post was fixed and immovable and Baba began to go closer and closer to it and clasped the post firmly. Every moment the rupture was expected, and they were all dismayed, did not know what to do, and stood dumb with wonder and fear. Baba suffered this ordeal for the sake of His Bhakta. The other devotees wanted only to give a hint to the Mavsibai to be moderate in her service and not cause any trouble or pain to Baba. This they did with good intention, but Baba did not brook even this. They were surprised to see that their well-intentioned effort had resulted in this catastrophe; and they could do nothing but to wait and see. Fortunately, Baba's rage soon cooled down. He left the satka and resumed His seat. From this time onward, the devotees took the lesson that they should not meddle with anybody but allow him to serve Baba as he chooses. He was capable to gauge the merits and worth of the service rendered unto Him. Chapter 24 Satcharita BABA bless us and guide us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Even I Agree with Anitha Akka. Earlier days in Shirdi, they used to allow go on to Baba's Nsamadhi & Touch His Idle & Do Abhishek for Samadhi. Now-a-days , They are pulling out devotees Just Before Baba in Shirdi.No Questions can be Asked & they are not bothered about one person , but millions of pepople waiting for Hours in Queues. Many of the mandirs of Baba were started by Permission & Grace of Baba . The managements always try to to Practice Baba's Teachings. In Shirdi & most of mandirs, they simply close door or Switch off Lights after Shej Aarati, meaning Let Baba Have Rest.we are so stressed , thinking about our selves. Poor Baba, has to think about all his children. Let him have half sleep atleast , as we know Baba Never slept deeply. They never bothered about Devotees. They should follow discipline and closing times.Devotee should be on time. But, being in Practical world, Just Compare How its hard to manage big counts of devotees and manage "Equality" and Constraints.We must obey and co-opearate Instruction from Management of Mandir. For that we must have Right People at Right Spots for controlling Time & Count. But, having a specific time opened for Darshan to all will be good , then also a devotee may complain, they just didnt give me mre time. Like a joke , we hear in Airports , by foreigners: If, we allow 1000KGs of Luggage , They still ask for 1 KG Extra.Saurabh Patel <mystic_saurabh wrote: Sairam Anitha akka, Thank you very much for your email – it clearly answers my Question and I am happy that I will be able to see it in a different way now. Actually I was not aware about a lot of things that you have discussed in your email about only Brahmins allowed to touch the moorti’s of certain other non-Sai Baba temples etc...Also with other things like people can sue the temple’s management and people can sit there selfishly in front of Baba for hours without giving others any chance...I see the point now. I have not paid attention to any other temple in detail except Baba’s and that too I started it only four years ago. I am glad I asked the Q because I can now use this principle to clear a lot of other Q’s I had in mind. And one more thing: I had never noted in my Shri Sai Satcharita reading that Baba also adapted according to circumstances (stopped his begging rounds to meet devotees)...I used to think if Baba didn’t have problem then why should we have problem with letting devotees to touch his moorti – but yes the circumstances are different now... My thinking is conditioned with only my past experiences (as is usually the case) and I am glad that I am able to see it according to today’s circumstances for this case. Thank you again, May Baba bless all, Jai Sai Ram to all On Behalf Of Anitha Kandukuri Sunday, 17 June 2007 9:14 AM Cc: ; ; saileela99 RE: Message for the week. Sairam Saurabh, Mind you, Shirdi Sai BABA's temples are the only places where any devotee from any caste can touch His moorti unlike the moortis of other gods and godesses where only people belonging to Brahmin caste are allowed into the sanctum sanitorium (irrespective of whether they eat meat or not). With growing BABA's devotees any number of temples is not enough to satiate peoples thirst for touching Baba's moorthy. If people were given a chance they would selfishly sit in front of BABA or hold on to HIS feet depriving others the opportunity to worship or stand in front of Him. Hence the reason for discipline and long queues and shortage of time to stand in front of BABA either in Shirdi or Tirupati. Baba allowed people to worship Him as they pleased, but He was amicable to change with change in circumstances. Earlier before devotees thronged Dwarakamai, BABA used to beg His food but gave it up when people started bringing food which would suffice entire Shirdi. With growing devotee population it is responsibility of temple management to enforce rules and regulations to enable a harmonious atmosphere in the temple which would enable all devotees to have darshan of BABA. Also in foriegn countries it is all the more important to put a restrain to number of people accessing BABA's moorthy, if there were any falls and accidents, believe me whether a devotee or not people do not mind suing Baba (temple) for the damages. This has practically happened and I am not lying to you. In such circumstances dicipline in temples is must ensure proper service of diety and devotee. In other words it is "you" and "me" who are the cause for how the temples are run now a days putting all the reservations aside. Hope this answers your question. No pun intended here, I am merely trying to state the facts as I see them happen in temples. Humble pranams sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra "Saurabh Patel" <mystic_saurabh CC: ,<sourabh.nigam,<suraj_n_suvarna,<muraliraja1919,<rkoneru234,<rabbineni RE: Message for the week. Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:49:59 +1000 Jai Sai Ram, I really loved this simple message of yours...It makes a very important point... Sister, I would like to ask you a question in relation to this. Please answer whenever you have time. In fact, anyone out there who would like to share their thoughts on this then I request you to do so. The story you have given below from the Shri Sai Satcharita also shows pretty much clearly that Baba just wanted us to open our heart in front of him in whatever way we want and even if it meant that he had to suffer a bit for it then he didn’t care because he is more thirsty for our love. In this context, if the management of any particular Shri Sai Baba temple wants the devotees to not: - Go beyond a particular area to get closer to Baba’s moorti, or - Not touch hands on Baba’s feet or face with love, or - Not to kiss Baba’s feet or hands, or - Any other rules in these lines which seem to have been okay for Baba before his Mahasamadhi, however, they are not practiced now. Would it be liked by Baba? At one side I think that such discipline is very important for a temple, but at other side, when I read your email I thought that Baba would have definitely allowed such things because the devotees’ love was involved which was more important to him than causing Baba inconvenience. I understand that a balance is an ideal thing, however, how should we find such a balance?? Please forgive me if I have said anything wrong. May Baba bless all, Jai Sai Ram to all. On Behalf Of Anitha Kandukuri Saturday, 16 June 2007 7:15 AM Cc: Message for the week. Sairam, I have noticed that my mails have been bouncing hence the messages I sent did not go through. I apologise for the inconvenience caused. Here is the message for week. Anitha Kandukuri <a_kandukuri Cc: , , saileela99 Message for the week Friday, 15 June 2007 9:42:55 AM Sairam, Wish you all a happy baba's day to you all. Worship - we all do that dont we. We pray to BABA. We have set time in a day when we engage in communion with God. Often some of us - due to play of Maya and flattery of Ego feel that our mode of worship is superior to that of our friend or neighbour. We feel we do a better job in worshiping BABA. Does BABA approve of such behaviour? No, never, HE wanted pure love, humbleness, and faith. HE does not care about formality or method or elaboratnes involved in HIS pooja. He is a worshipper of simple people and simple thoughts. Here is an example of his response to others rebuke in offering service to BABA.... Baba's Characteristics -- His Dependency on Bhaktas Baba allowed His devotees to serve Him in their own way, and did not like any other persons interfering in this. To quote an instance, the same Mavsibai was on another occasion, kneading Baba's abdomen. Seeing the fury and force used by her, all the other devotees felt nervous and anxious. They said, "Oh mother, be more considerate and moderate, otherwise you will break Baba's arteries and nerves". At this Baba got up at once from His seat, dashed His satka on the ground. He got enraged and His eyes became red like a live charcoal. None dared to stand before or face Baba. Then He took hold of one end of the Satka with both hands and pressed it in the hollow of his abdomen. The other end He fixed to the post and began to press His abdomen against it. The satka which was about two or three feet in length seemed all to go into the abdomen and the people feared that the abdomen would be ruptured in a short time. The post was fixed and immovable and Baba began to go closer and closer to it and clasped the post firmly. Every moment the rupture was expected, and they were all dismayed, did not know what to do, and stood dumb with wonder and fear. Baba suffered this ordeal for the sake of His Bhakta. The other devotees wanted only to give a hint to the Mavsibai to be moderate in her service and not cause any trouble or pain to Baba. This they did with good intention, but Baba did not brook even this. They were surprised to see that their well-intentioned effort had resulted in this catastrophe; and they could do nothing but to wait and see. Fortunately, Baba's rage soon cooled down. He left the satka and resumed His seat. From this time onward, the devotees took the lesson that they should not meddle with anybody but allow him to serve Baba as he chooses. He was capable to gauge the merits and worth of the service rendered unto Him. Chapter 24 Satcharita BABA bless us and guide us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra Your Future Starts Here. Dream it? Then be it! Find it at www.seek.com.au Search for local singles online @ Lavalife - Click here Join us on Baba's 6th Moorthy Sthapana Divas+61-425291294 +61-433172576 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2007 Report Share Posted August 9, 2007 Sairam Anitha,Very nice message for the week and so true we all including me claim to be Baba's devotee but very few actually follow his teachings and thus suffer.ThankskaminiAnitha Kandukuri <a_kandukuri wrote: Sairam, Happy Baba's day to you all. May Baba bless us all and give us wisdom to choose right from wrong and guide us in the right path taking His sweet name always. For last few weeks I have been reflecting over the incidents in life and wondering over the behaviour of people who call themselves true devotees of God, or virtuous or very kind but their actions were on the contrary to teachings of human values. I kept questioning BABA: 1. How can people sleep at night when they have abused, tortured robbed their family of peace, money and wealth. What happened to love, what happened to the sleepless nights parents spend beside the bedside of the child who now considers them a pain. 2. How can people be manipulative to meet their ends, ie, be nice to you just so as to get their work done, like look after their son or daughter and once the work is finished forget about them. It is like using them like a tissue and throwing them off. Is not this contrary to Baba's teaching of showing gratitude. 3. People involved in temples and worship of Baba play political games and manipulate others to their benefit all for fame and name. Is this spirituality. 4. People cheat others and give donations to God as a share in the spoils of booty. They take name of god, but engage in ungodly acts against other humans. How can god accept such tokens? 5. They say love is unconditionally. But unfortunately in present world everything is conditional, friends, relatives and devotion towards god. It is life of you scatch my back and I scratch yours case. It is pathetic to see that values such as compassion, unconditional love (godliness) empathy does not exist any more. How can god let world deteriorate? 6. There are people (like me) who are judgmental, and think that world is imperfect and devious and fail to see personal flaws. How should such people be reassured that God knows everything and takes care of everybody and they should concentrate on their welfare? Well we all fall into one or the other category of the characteristics described above. After all we are humans. Here is the response from Baba for my questions.. Beware none of us or our actions will be spared, a time comes when we all have to pay for our actions. Just because we have good times now does not mean God has forgoten our past deeds. No man born on this earth is ever escapes the destiny created by their actions. Next time we say 'ouch' 'I am in pain' let us reflect on our deeds past and then we might find the answer for our suffering. Praying to god will give us strength to bear the test but he will never let us escape the punishment, because we chose to inflict it upon ourselves with our behaviour. Beware of the actions... " Baba's Advice Regarding our Behaviour The following words of Baba are general and invaluable. If they are kept in mind and acted upon, they will always do you good. Unless there is some relationship or connection, nobody goes anywhere. If any men or creatures come to you, do not discourteously drive them away, but receive them well and treat " them, with due respect. Shri Hari (God) will be certainly pleased, if you give water to the thirsty, bread to the hungry, clothes to the naked, and your verandah to strangers for sitting and resting. If anybody wants any money from you, and you are not inclined to give, do not give, but do not bark at him, like a dog. Let anybody speak hundreds of things against you, do not resent by giving any bitter reply. If you always tolerate such things, you will certainly be happy. Let the world go topsy-turvy, you remain where you are. Standing or staying in your own place, look on calmly at the show of all things passing before you. Demolish the wall of difference that separates you from Me; and then the road for our meeting will be clear and open. The sense of differentiation, as I and thou, is the barrier that keeps away the disciple from his Master, and unless that is destroyed the state of union or atonement is not possible, "Allah Malik" i.e. God is the sole Proprietor, nobody else is our Protector. His method of work is extra-ordinary, invaluable, and inscrutable. His will will be done and He will show us the way, and satisfy our heart's desires. It is on account of Rinaubandh (former relationship) that we have come together, let us love and serve each other and be happy. He, who attain the supreme goal of life, is immortal and happy; all others merely exist, i.e., live so long as they breathe". Baba give us wisdom to act as per your bidding. Forgive us our sins and lead us not unto temptation. BABA bless us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra SEEK Salary Centre: What are you really worth? Find out. Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 HAI THIS IS SRINIVAS AND I AM SENDING THE SHIRIDI SAI LIVE DARSHAN LINK PLEASE VISIT THIS LINK http://www.shrisaibabasansthan.org/shirdilivedarshan1.htm MAY SAI BLESS U amal sri Anitha Kandukuri <a_kandukuri parayana group Cc: MSN <; ShirdiSaibabakripa Thursday, 3 April, 2008 4:27:31 PM Message for the week. Sairam, Happy BABA's day to you all. BABA fulfil all your wishes, listen to our prayers and guide us in the correct path. Why do we pray? Did we ever understand the consequences of Karma? Let us Pray - BABA we are praying today because we are burdened with mundane problems and worries. We know not what to ask what to pray for but please help us to love you and bear everything with a smile on our face knowing that You are there with us at every step. Help us to know that when You our Master are spared from the clutches of Maya and consequences of karma, how can we expect to be spared. But one confidence and faith we have is that You are with us and You will give us required strength and resources to tide us over with our limitations. We repeat Your name, We love you, We seek shelter under your grace. Here is BABA's Message for the week... Baba's words were always short, pithy, deep, full of meaning, efficient and well-balanced. He was ever content and never cared for anything. He said, "Though I have become a Fakir, have no house or wife, and though leaving off all cares, I have stayed at one place, the inevitable Maya teases Me often. Though I forgot Myself I cannot forget Her. She always envelops Me.This Maya (illusive power) of the Lord (Shri Hari) teases God Brahma and others; then what to speak of a poor Fakir like Me? Those who take refuge in the Lord wil be freed from Her clutches with his grace". In such terms Baba spoke about the power of Maya. Lord Shri Krishna has said to Uddhava in the Bhagwat that the Saints are His living forms; and see what Baba had said for the welfare of His devotees: "Those who are fortunate and whose demerits have vanished; take to My worship. If you always say 'Sai, Sai' I shall take you over the seven seas; believe in these words, and you will be certainly benefited. I do not need any paraphernalia of worship - either eight-fold or sixteen-fold. I rest there where there is full devotion". Now read what Sai, the friend of those, who surrendered themselves to Him, did for their welfare. " Chapter 13 Satcharita BABA bless us and guide us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfir e.com/sd/ SaidarbarCanberr a Click here Search for local singles online @ Lavalife. Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Sairam, Happy Baba's day to you all. BABA bless us and protect us always. We read Satcharita regularly and have been doing parayan since last few years. Have we applied the principles taught by Baba in our life? Are we worthy to receive His grace to understand and interpret it to suite our situations... If our devotion is sincere and have strong faith, Yes Baba will surely grace us and give us the ability to interpret and understand His messages to fit in with every situation we find. Today I had the urge to look up by horoscope on the internet, then I remembered one article sent earlier in this group about How baba asked a devotee to stop believing in astrologers and go ahead with his work and have faith in Him. I did not look into the forecast, I cannot say I completly disbelieve in astrologers, there is a part of me that wants to seek a psychic advise on difficult situations, but Baba takes care to see I do not wander from my path of devotion. And today I asked for a message for me which I could learn from it and apply to my life. Here is the message for me and I am sure it would be applicable to your situation too... "Lala Lakshmichand It is always the experience of the Bhaktas that God always helps them in their search for Sad-guru and other spiritual endeavours. That very night at 8-00 p.m. a friend named Shankarrao knocked at his door and asked him whether he would accompany him to Shirdi. His joy knew no bounds and he at once decided to go to Shirdi. He borrowed Rs.15/- from his cousin and after making due preparations left for Shirdi. In the train, he and his friend Shankar Rao did some Bhajan (sang religious songs) and enquired about Sai baba with some fellow passengers-four Mahomedans, who were returning to their place near Shirdi. They all told tham that Sai baba was a great Saint living in Shirdi for many years. Then when they reached Kopergaon he wanted to buy some good guavas for offering to Baba, but he was so much enrapt with the scenery and sights there, that he forgot to purchase them. When they were nearing Shirdi, he was reminded of the guavas; just then he saw an old woman with a guava-basket on her head, running after the tanga. The tanga was stopped and he gladly purchased some select fruits, when the woman said - "Take all the rest and offer them on my behalf to Baba". The facts viz. that he had intended to purchase guavas, but that he had forgotten to do so, the old woman's encounter and her devotion to Baba, all these were a surprise to both the friends; and Lakhamichand thought in his mind, that the old woman might be some relation of the old man he saw in his dream. Then they drove on and came near Shirdi and seeing the flags on the Masjid they saluted them. With Puja materials in hand, they then went to the Masjid and worshipped Baba with due formality. Lakhmichand was much moved and was extremely happy to see Baba. He was enrapt with Baba's Feet as a bee with a sweet smelling lotus. Then Baba spoke as follows :- "Cunning fellow, he does bhajan on the way and enquires from others. Why ask others? Everything we should see with our own eyes; where is the necessity to question others? Just think for yourself whether your dream is true or not? Where was the necessity of the darshan by taking a loan from a Marwari? Is the heart's desire now satisfied?""Chapter 28 SSS Baba bless us and guide us always. Humble pranams Sairam Anitha Kandukuri http://www.angelfire.com/sd/SaidarbarCanberra Download the new Find out what’s new with your friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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