Sai Naam Ek Sahara

May 20, 2007

I remember reading in one of such articles that,

Devotion and surrender to BABA can not be implanted,

So never force or argue with others who do not beleive

in BABA. At some point in life BABA does make one

realize the TRUTH and once that glow of TRUTH is

experienced that soul will accept BABA whole

heartedly.

--- sssd group <sssdgroup wrote:

> Sai Naam Ek Sahara

>

> The main problem is the conviction of the people

> about

> their faith and surrender to Baba. The qualities,

> sacrifices and

> time needed for establishing closer contact with a

> Sadguru cannot be

> done in the way we do in our ordinary life with

> people around. In a

> social relationship people generally have a limited

> approach

> pre-calculating mutual benefit. Any deviation or

> non-fulfillment of anticipated reaction from the

> other side spoils and

> stops such a relationship easily. Today even in a

> family set-up,

> relationships in a large number of cases are built

> on such a

> considerations. These norms are changeable from

> society to society and from time to time. But when

> these norms are applied in relation to the spiritual

> world or in relation to a Sadguru, they become a

> non-starter from the beginning.

>

> Bhakti Marg at its highest point leads to

> `surrender'.

> Surrender means giving-away our mind, body and soul

> to the deity

> or Sadguru. Having given, the devotee is to realize

> that what ever

> happens to his body, mind and soul is done by the

> Sadguru. Also,

> he has to use these three for the work of the

> Sadguru. Since

> anything and everything happening to him is done by

> the Sadguru, he

> has nothing to be happy about, nothing to be sorry

> about, nothing

> to complain against and nothing to desire - not only

> materially or

> mentally but also spiritually.

>

> The state of actual surrender can be achieved by

> only

> a few among millions of spiritual aspirants over a

> few lives and

> that too, with the help and kindness of a Guru.

>

> How many people, who say that they have surrendered

> to

> Baba fall in this category? Baba was once sitting in

> Dwarakamayee

> Masjid relating about his relationship with His Guru

> who had given Him

> severe tests. Baba was tied by His legs and hung in

> a well for a few

> hours. When the Guru on return asked him as to how

> he felt, Baba

> said that he felt fine. He had nothing to complain

> about and was

> content with what the Guru had done. In this context

> Baba asked the

> devotees sitting around Him as to how many of them

> can be His

> disciples in the way in which He was a disciple of

> His Guru. None

> had the courage to come up to that expectation.

>

> Therefore simply to say, or show that one has

> surrendered is not

> good enough because a man who has surrendered will

> have no desires

> and no complaints. He would only follow the path

> laid down by Baba

> expressed in two words i.e. Shradha (Faith) and

> Saburi (Patience).

>

> Shradha - Means devotional faith

>

> - faith that Baba is the almighty and Protector

>

> - that both the good and the bad happening to the

> devotee's life

> are controlled by Him

>

> - to happily acknowledge and patiently tolerate all

> vicissitudes of

> life with equanimity

>

> - to realize that Baba is always with him, around

> him

>

> - to be able to sacrifice anything and everything

> for

> the cause of the Master in the manner prescribed by

> Him

>

> - to follow His dictates in letter and spirit,

> whatever be the

> consequences

>

> - to hold on to Baba exclusively and not to run to

> different

> deities / temples for different purposes

>

> Saburi - i.e. patience means following actions as

> mentioned before

> without complaint, either external or mental and

> live normally

> everyday with faith in Baba.

>

> How many people can really do this? If not, one

> should think on the

> word `surrender' continuously before considering

> himself to be a

> great devotee. It is wiser to think of what we can

> do for Baba's

> work instead of thinking what Baba can do for us.

>

> To get perfect association with a Perfect Master,

> the person

> concerned must be a perfect devotee. Baba used to

> say that a devotee

> will experience Him as per his bhava means inner

> thought process.

> Imperfect minds will reflect an imperfect image of

> the Sadguru and

> the person will get imperfect results. It is not

> easy to achieve

> this state of mind and it is also not correct to use

> the word

> surrender so easily without understanding its full

> implications. The

> better path would be to develop the qualities

> prescribed by the

> Sadguru gradually living in the world like an

> ordinary man enjoying

> and suffering happiness and unhappiness with the

> Guru in the

> heart. " …….

>

> Ram Rahim Ko Bhajane Bale

> Terey Pujari Baba

> Tera Naam Ek Sahara (3)

>

> Tumhi Ho Gita Tumhi Raamayan

> Tumhi Ho Veda Puraan

> Tera Naam Ek Sahara (3)

> Sai Naam Ek Sahara

>

> Baba Said

>

> " The Guru has to root out offshoots of ignorance and

> has to give Updesh or instruction to the disciple " .

>

> Baba is every where just feel him and keep on saying

> `Om Sai Ram' to whom so ever you meet.

>

> OM SAI SRI SAI JAI JAI SAI!!! Let us pray at the

> lotus feet of Bhagwan Baba who is the incarnation of

> all gods and protector of all, to show mercy on us,

> and increase our devotion towards him

>

> Jai Sai Ram

> Swamy Mahadevan

> Bow to Shri Sai-Peace be to all

> Baba Bless you ever!!!

>

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May 21, 2007

I totally agree with Meera, Its when the devotees times comes he himself will get to know HIM..Meera Bakshi <meeraharesh wrote: I remember reading in one of such articles that, Devotion and surrender to BABA can not be implanted, So never force or argue with others who do not beleive in BABA. At some point in life BABA does make one realize the TRUTH and once that glow of TRUTH is experienced that soul will accept BABA whole heartedly. --- sssd group <sssdgroup > wrote: > Sai Naam Ek Sahara > > The main problem is the conviction of the people > about > their faith and surrender to Baba. The qualities, > sacrifices and > time needed for establishing closer contact with a > Sadguru cannot be > done in the way we do in our ordinary life with > people around. In a > social relationship people generally have a limited > approach > pre-calculating mutual benefit. Any deviation or > non-fulfillment of anticipated reaction from the > other side spoils and > stops such a relationship easily. Today even in a > family set-up, > relationships in a large number of cases are built > on such a > considerations. These norms are changeable from > society to society and from time to time. But when > these norms are applied

in relation to the spiritual > world or in relation to a Sadguru, they become a > non-starter from the beginning. > > Bhakti Marg at its highest point leads to > `surrender'. > Surrender means giving-away our mind, body and soul > to the deity > or Sadguru. Having given, the devotee is to realize > that what ever > happens to his body, mind and soul is done by the > Sadguru. Also, > he has to use these three for the work of the > Sadguru. Since > anything and everything happening to him is done by > the Sadguru, he > has nothing to be happy about, nothing to be sorry > about, nothing > to complain against and nothing to desire - not only > materially or > mentally but also spiritually. > > The state of actual surrender can be achieved by > only > a few among millions of spiritual aspirants over a >

few lives and > that too, with the help and kindness of a Guru. > > How many people, who say that they have surrendered > to > Baba fall in this category? Baba was once sitting in > Dwarakamayee > Masjid relating about his relationship with His Guru > who had given Him > severe tests. Baba was tied by His legs and hung in > a well for a few > hours. When the Guru on return asked him as to how > he felt, Baba > said that he felt fine. He had nothing to complain > about and was > content with what the Guru had done. In this context > Baba asked the > devotees sitting around Him as to how many of them > can be His > disciples in the way in which He was a disciple of > His Guru. None > had the courage to come up to that expectation. > > Therefore simply to say, or show that one has > surrendered is not

> good enough because a man who has surrendered will > have no desires > and no complaints. He would only follow the path > laid down by Baba > expressed in two words i.e. Shradha (Faith) and > Saburi (Patience). > > Shradha - Means devotional faith > > - faith that Baba is the almighty and Protector > > - that both the good and the bad happening to the > devotee's life > are controlled by Him > > - to happily acknowledge and patiently tolerate all > vicissitudes of > life with equanimity > > - to realize that Baba is always with him, around > him > > - to be able to sacrifice anything and everything > for > the cause of the Master in the manner prescribed by > Him > > - to follow His dictates in letter and spirit, > whatever be the > consequences >

> - to hold on to Baba exclusively and not to run to > different > deities / temples for different purposes > > Saburi - i.e. patience means following actions as > mentioned before > without complaint, either external or mental and > live normally > everyday with faith in Baba. > > How many people can really do this? If not, one > should think on the > word `surrender' continuously before considering > himself to be a > great devotee. It is wiser to think of what we can > do for Baba's > work instead of thinking what Baba can do for us. > > To get perfect association with a Perfect Master, > the person > concerned must be a perfect devotee. Baba used to > say that a devotee > will experience Him as per his bhava means inner > thought process. > Imperfect minds will reflect an imperfect image of

> the Sadguru and > the person will get imperfect results. It is not > easy to achieve > this state of mind and it is also not correct to use > the word > surrender so easily without understanding its full > implications. The > better path would be to develop the qualities > prescribed by the > Sadguru gradually living in the world like an > ordinary man enjoying > and suffering happiness and unhappiness with the > Guru in the > heart."……. > > Ram Rahim Ko Bhajane Bale > Terey Pujari Baba > Tera Naam Ek Sahara (3) > > Tumhi Ho Gita Tumhi Raamayan > Tumhi Ho Veda Puraan > Tera Naam Ek Sahara (3) > Sai Naam Ek Sahara > > Baba Said > > "The Guru has to root out offshoots of ignorance and > has to give Updesh or instruction to the disciple". > > Baba is every where just

feel him and keep on saying > `Om Sai Ram' to whom so ever you meet. > > OM SAI SRI SAI JAI JAI SAI!!! Let us pray at the > lotus feet of Bhagwan Baba who is the incarnation of > all gods and protector of all, to show mercy on us, > and increase our devotion towards him > > Jai Sai Ram > Swamy Mahadevan > Bow to Shri Sai-Peace be to all > Baba Bless you ever!!! > > > > > ________Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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