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Hi Anurag

 

Your analysis about the Self is very interesting.

If I may - I would add :-

 

Inside(the body) or Outside(the body)!

Inside(the mind) or Outside(the realm of the mind)!

Nothing or Everything!

Finite or Infinite!

All these concepts are interconnected and belong to the same framework.

They sometimes get related through sheer negation or through

a limiting process (i.e.. infinite is speculated as the limiting process of

the finite).

Hence all are necessarily relative.

Even the concept relative is also relative as it pre-supposes something

ABSOLUTE (Self?) to relate to. (Hence sometimes this Self is called

ABSOLUTE).

But be warned this Self cannot be cornered through any such mental

gymnastics.

Otherwise it is a mere by-product of some such mental speculation!

Not suggesting for a moment that we give up trying : )

 

As Sri Ramakrishna would say in his quaint manner,

" I want to tell you everything but Mother won't let me " .

 

 

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Anurag Goel <anurag

<Ramakrishna >

25 January 2000 11:45

[ramakrishna] Self

 

 

> Anurag Goel <anurag

>

>

> I was thinking when i am not parts of this body, not this mind. How can i

> be someone contained within something. How can something contained

> within something know the all. How can someone that is contained within

> something know itself. How can i look at myself. How can i be a just a

> somone bounded by boundaries.

>

> when i am not this, not this but at the same time i am someone then i

> simply have to be everything

>

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  • 2 years later...

Reminded me of this poem:

 

The Self's Infinity

 

I have become what before Time I was.

A secret touch has quieted thought and sense:

All things by the agent Mind created pass

Into a void and mute magnificence.

 

My life is a silence grasped by timeless hands;

The world is drowned in an immortal gaze.

Naked my spirit from its vestures stands;

I am alone with my own self for space.

 

My heart is a center of infinity,

My body a dot in the soul's vast expanse.

All being's huge abyss wakes under me,

Once screened in a gigantic Ignorance.

 

A momentless immensity pure and bare,

I stretch to an eternal everywhere.

 

18/19-9-1939

 

Sri Aurobindo

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ramakrishna, Gee <g_warudi> wrote:

>

> Hullo Vishwajit,

> Let me attempt in a very `lay' fashion to help you to

> identify what `self' is. I am myself still looking for

> my `self', but know this much that the `self' is

> something which is so near yet so far. So near, coz

> its in us waiting to be recognized, but so far, coz,

> we identify everything else as `self' except the real

> thing. For, we mistake that as self, which responds to

> the `navras' and that which is `jadh' or gross. Viz

> our body, whence actually the body is the most

> unimportant….the self is that which is free, which is

> not bound by anyone or any thing. Yet, it is the one

> thing that can give us a true `freedom' since, when we

> know our `self' no impulses, no elements can control

> us, instead we can control these agencies and then

> that would be `freedom'………I cannot omit to mention

> this quote I came across once in a book, " Do not do

> what you want, then you may do as you like. " Doing as

> you like would perhaps be possible when one knows

> one's SELF as it were. I don't know if I am anywhere

> close to the correct understanding, but I too am in

> the process of trying and have the Almighty's blessing

> in the form of a very good friend who has been

> instrumental in helping me in the process.

> Much more can be offered in the from of explanation,

> but this is how I perceive it.

> GW

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  • 6 years later...

" The soul who meditates on the Self is content to

serve the Self and rests satisfied within the Self;

there remains nothing more for him to accomplish. "

 

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Gurorangripadme ManaScenna Lagnam tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim!?

Sarva Kartha, Sarva Dhartha, Sarva Hartha, Mangalam!

Satchidananda, Satchidananda, Satchidananda Mangalam!

Tasmai Sri Guru-murthaye Nama Idam Sri Dakshinamurtaye!

 

Ata Nityo Narayanaha, Brahma Narayanaha, Sivascha Narayanaha, Kalascha

Narayanaha. Disascha Narayanaha, Vidisascha Narayanaha, Urdwamscha Narayanaha,

Adhascha Narayanaha, Antar-bahischa-Narayana.Narayana Eh Vedam Sarvam, Yat

BhootamYacchha Bhavyam.Nish-kalango Niranjano Nirvikalpo Nirakyadhas,suddhho

Deva Eko Narayanaha, Na dwiteeyosthi kaschit,ya evam Vedas Vishnu reva Bhavati,

Sa Vishnureva Bhavathi, Etat yajur veda sirodeeyathe.

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