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" guddiseshadri " <guddiseshadri

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Thursday, July 11, 2002 08:27

[sri Ramakrishna] New member

 

 

> Hello all,

> I want to convey my 'namaskaras' to all the members of the group.

> I am new to this group. I joined with the main aim to learn from

> others, from their own experiances, which will inturn help me in my

> spiritual goals or simply to be a better human being at large.

> I have read thro' the interactions and postings for 2 weeks now

> and found them very interesting. Hope to find more and more postings

> on the Upanishads and the Gita. We (my husband and I) live in London

> and we don't posses reading material in hard copy right now. Although

> we do have a PC at home. If I could get to know of some good links on

> the internet for reading the gita and/or the upanisads online, it

> would do a lot of help.

>

> Regards

> Padmini

>

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Welcome to the list. We will request some of our list members

to suggest some Gita and Upanishad sites for you to look up.

 

You can visit the Ramakrishna Vedanta Centre to:- buy books,

attend talks or sit for meditation. The Centre is about 20 miles

from London. Details at: http://www.vedantauk.com

 

We at the Vivekananda Centre also arrange a series of talks every

year at Imperial College and Brent Town Hall London.

We will keep you posted. (details of our activities are at

http://www.vivekananda.co.uk/news.htm )

 

jay

Vivekananda Centre London

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Namaste,

 

The following URLs will be useful:

 

http://sanskrit.gde.to/doc_giitaa/doc_giitaa.html

 

http://sanskrit.gde.to/doc_upanishhat/doc_upanishhat.html

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

 

Ramakrishna, " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda@b...>

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> " guddiseshadri " <guddiseshadri>

> <Ramakrishna>

> Thursday, July 11, 2002 08:27

> [sri Ramakrishna] New member

>

>

> > Hello all,

> > I want to convey my 'namaskaras' to all the members of the

group.

> > I am new to this group. I joined with the main aim to learn from

> > others, from their own experiances, which will inturn help me in

my

> > spiritual goals or simply to be a better human being at large.

> > I have read thro' the interactions and postings for 2 weeks

now

> > and found them very interesting. Hope to find more and more

postings

> > on the Upanishads and the Gita. We (my husband and I) live in

London

> > and we don't posses reading material in hard copy right now.

Although

> > we do have a PC at home. If I could get to know of some good

links on

> > the internet for reading the gita and/or the upanisads online, it

> > would do a lot of help.

> >

> > Regards

> > Padmini

> >

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~response~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> Welcome to the list. We will request some of our list members

> to suggest some Gita and Upanishad sites for you to look up.

>

> You can visit the Ramakrishna Vedanta Centre to:- buy books,

> attend talks or sit for meditation. The Centre is about 20 miles

> from London. Details at: http://www.vedantauk.com

>

> We at the Vivekananda Centre also arrange a series of talks every

> year at Imperial College and Brent Town Hall London.

> We will keep you posted. (details of our activities are at

> http://www.vivekananda.co.uk/news.htm )

>

> jay

> Vivekananda Centre London

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Hi Bala,

Welcome to our Sam eGroups. The correct website is:

http://www.voiceofbaba.org/main.html

 

Ganesh S/..

 

, " Bala " <bala4me> wrote:

> Sankaram Siva Sankaram

>

> Hai All...

>

> I'm new member of Samratchana e-groups, let I introduce my self

> first; I'm Balamurugan just Software Engg. working in Coimbatore. I

> Love Baba's quotes and thoughts.

>

> Hey, I just look about www.voiceofbaba.com site, but the

registration

> of the site has Expired. I don't know where to inform this, so i

just

> send this mail. Corresponded person takes the charge about that

> matter.

>

> I'm very happy to join this group.

>

> Love All

> Bala

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Namaste Swami,

 

It is attachment to the world which

must be renounced.

 

You awaken others thru your love.

 

We are all Her children.

 

I have a question for you, what is

Sannyas?

 

All of my love, Bob Rose

 

When a person choose the path of " Tyaga " by renounce

the world

why the others including parents protest him?(Leave exceptions).

 

And what is the way to convince them specially in case where they

have no idea about Ramakrishna Mission/ Math?

 

And how many of us ready to put our children on " vedi " of Ma

Kali?

 

With Regards

 

Swami Sharan Verma

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hi mr.verma, i think the reason why parents oppose is bcoz they are conditioned to think happiness lies in marrying, having children,earning a lot of money.they cant be blamed for that for 99% of the society(surroundings) thinks and acts that way. not only that taking to sannyasa is a strong and rarely taken step and the mind is always resistant to change. the parents have given birth and brought up the child.so they have been with the child, say for 20 years.then suddenly their child tells them he wants to leave them n become a sannyasi.the parents are shocked. and within their mind they start thinking about all the happy memories they have had with the child.what i am trying to tell you is that it is somewhat akin[similar] to death. when a person dies, his/her relatives start thinking of the good times they spent with that person n start crying. then they start

opposing their child's decision to take sannyasa, whereas in case of death, we all know that death is inevitable. only some parents are mature enuf to understand that even destiny has something in store for their child and that destiny will take him away from them. i can't answer the other 2 questions bcoz i dont know them. hope this helps Varun Ramasubramanian

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Dear Sharmaji,

 

Namaste. This world is a very strange place. Sri Sri Thakur compared

it to the tail of a dog which can never be straightened. With my

limited experience of this world I have to agree.

 

This world is the domain of maya; ignorance. Those under the spell of

maya appear to be stronger here. This is my own conclusion. The man in

samsara fully realises its worth and also its illusory nature but yet

wants his offspring to continue to wallow in the muck that is the

world. This is a mystery we cannot fathom.

 

I have seen very deserving canditates unable to join our beloved Math

due to strong opposition from parents who have dragged them away from

its confines. I have also seen the fortunate souls who have stoically

shrugged off that onslaught.

 

My conclusion is, those who want to renounce should do it whatever the

wishes of their parents/guardians. One has to be bold and jump into

the lap of Thakur without any fear.

 

If one has the burning desire to renounce and yet cannot, a life of

intense frustration awaits. To live in the samsara carrying within

oneself the desire to realise God is not an easy task.

 

Therefore if you have to go, GO. There is no need to convince anybody.

 

God bless you,

Jagannath.

 

 

Ramakrishna , " Swami Sharan Verma "

<ssvermafca wrote:

> The queries were:-

>

> When a person choose the path of " Tyaga " by renounce the world

> why the others including parents protest him?(Leave exceptions).

>

> And what is the way to convince them specially in case where they

> have no idea about Ramakrishna Mission/ Math?

>

> And how many of us ready to put our children on " vedi " of Ma Kali?

>

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Hello,

 

I humbly believe Sri Ramakrishna stressed on Bhakthi as the right path in the Kali age, while Ramana Maharishi practised and preached Self-Knowledge in the sight of God. I have not read Nisarga Datta.

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Namaste,

 

 

Yes, Sri Ramakrishna does stress Bhakti in the little I have read. Sri Ramana

didn't preached Self-Knowledge in opposition to Bhakti. Self-Enquiry that he

taught is Bhakti and Self-Knowledge, like the two sides of a coin.

 

Keeping the attention on the self, vichara, is Bhakti. This is my humble

opinion.

 

Can you tell me what sadhana Sri Ramakrishna taught for Self-Realization.

 

Sri Nisargadatta taught to keep the attention on the " I AM " . It is the same as

Sri Ramana.

 

 

Ramakrishna , " Venkat Krishnamurthy " <mrvenkatkrish

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> Hello,

>

> I humbly believe Sri Ramakrishna stressed on Bhakthi as the right path in

> the Kali age, while Ramana Maharishi practised and preached Self-Knowledge

> in the sight of God. I have not read Nisarga Datta.

>

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Hello,

 

If I am right Sri Ramana Maharishi taught Self-realization through the enquiry "Who am I" which is not the same as Parabhakthi of Sri Ramakrishna, who taught Self-realization through the Upanishadic statements like Aham Brahmasmi etc. I do not know if that is any different from the beliefs of Ramana Maharishi or Sri Nisargadatta's teaching.

 

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Yes. However I don't think it is as "the right path" as opposed to the "wrong" path, but as the path that suits your temperament.A bhakti uses his devotion, he maybe practises things like singing kirtan, and he will end with inner silent communion with God. A practitioner of karma Yoga starts with serving his fellow human and ends with the directing all energy inwardly to God and serve Him thus. Jnanis, start with thinking and using their sense of discrimination, he maybe practises things like self-inquiry, and he will end with receiving wisdom directly in silence.It just depends on you, if you are rather a feeling, thinking or practical type. The differences are only about the beginning, about the approach. They all end with communion with God. So, if that communion is truly your aspiration, then you can't do anything wrong.After all, in the end all approaches always include the other two, for communion with God will always lead to serving Him, and worshipping Him, and understanding Him. Then He will be in your heart, in your mind, and in the way you live. Of course!Traditionally, we call Ramana a jnani, but didn't he serve God in a tremendous way, and didn't he show great devotion? Same with Ramakrishna and Vivekananda. So instead of looking at their differences, I would suggest we rather look at what they have in common. StevenOp 12 dec 2009, om 00:27 heeft Venkat Krishnamurthy het volgende geschreven:Hello, I humbly believe Sri Ramakrishna stressed on Bhakthi as the right path in the Kali age, while Ramana Maharishi practised and preached Self-Knowledge in the sight of God. I have not read Nisarga Datta.

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"Who am I" is one of the various ways taught by Sri Ramakrishna - He advised devotees to analyse "neti - neti" till one finds out hat there is no "I" but "He".

 

The only difference is that Sri Ramakrishna preached many other paths which was possible for Him because He used all the various paths Himself and knew their veracity.

 

What He taught, which no one else taught, is "Renunciation" and establishing religion of the basis of science (of special theory of relativity, quantum Mechanics and Genetic) by defining Maya as the desire of "Wealth and Lust" and "Ego of the embodied soul".

 

One sees the entire spectrum in His life and techings - which is what made Him the Yugavatar and Avatar Varishtaya.

 

 

 

Venkat Krishnamurthy <mrvenkatkrishRamakrishna Sent: Sun, 13 December, 2009 9:50:57 AMRE: [sri Ramakrishna] New member

 

Hello,

 

If I am right Sri Ramana Maharishi taught Self-realization through the enquiry "Who am I" which is not the same as Parabhakthi of Sri Ramakrishna, who taught Self-realization through the Upanishadic statements like Aham Brahmasmi etc. I do not know if that is any different from the beliefs of Ramana Maharishi or Sri Nisargadatta' s teaching.

 

 

 

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Hello,

 

The "right path" for Bhakthi is in the context of the recommended path by Sri Ramakrishna and many others for the Kali age where singing the name of God etc. is easier than the Raja Yoga etc. You are correct in that everyone has a path which is suitable to them.

 

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JAIGURU DATTA

 

Please add my friend Lakshmi Panjeti cpanjeti to our group.

She is a active member in Swamiji's satsang group in Huntsville, AL

 

JAIGURU DATTA

Leela

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