Guest guest Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Dear Friend Well I dont normally go to the other group sites anymore as there is not enough time in a day to answer all the misinformation found there..........however I did go and look at what you mentioned and found a group of 3 that look like they are working toghether in much the same way they did on our group site before we threw two of them off site for causeing disruption much of the time There are a couple of groupmembers on the groupsite mentioned like Mahamuni who is Surya who lives in California and Ole Alstrup who have the talent of continually confuseing people......we have thrown them off our groupsite more than once.........so just for your infomration and nothing else this is a lesson and teaching about who to listen to and who not to pay attention to............I dont know who the Pandit Arjun is however seems the other two and he are great pals and he is mixing up true experience with doubt to confuse also......and then apologizeing and trying to keep all this secret at the same time giveing you the impression he knows all......however if you analyze his messages at the same time that he is trying to keep some most important things unsaid he is actually saying exactly what he means to say to make someone trust him....as he has a Rudraksha Distribution Business to support also.......No one really knows who he is and his way of communicateing regarding the Holy Rudraksha is simply an old way of getting more clients to buy from him.....his methods are right out central Nepal....and he is haveing help from Mr Surya and Mr Ole.......Pandit Arjun could even be Suresh Basnet for all anyone knows........When Mr Basnet of RudrakshaNepal sold me some Rudraksha years ago he told me he could sell me fake beads for a cheaper price and no one could tell the difference......since I have the Rudra Center America Authenication Service here and Rudra Center only goes by what is in Siva Purana this did not sit good with me and shortly thereafter we quit doing business with him So now that the old history has again surfaced for our newer group members I can answer your question with great honesty and truth........only some of the beads in Nepal.......MAY...be harvested prematurally by the same people who make the fake beads in Nepal.....I dont know anyone who can prove this as a fact since Rudra Center and many other Rudraksha Distributors have been publishing what is in the Puranas for new clients to follow All the Nepal families we work with in Arun Valley below Mount Everest in Nepal let the fruit ripen on tree......when fruit is ripe is beautiful blue color......and when ripened in this manner the fruit turns from a green color to a blue as the color turns with most any fruit.......fruit ripens a little at a time and also the birds come by and they will eat the part that is ripened and leave the rest even as the fruit is reaching maturity.....is same with all animals.....monkeys especially will eat a ripened part of a fruit and throw the rest to the ground with the seeds still in the fruit....this is how man learned to know that the Holy Rudraksha could be used in Ayurvedic Medicine by watching the birds and the animals and by Divine Knowledge as the color of fruit turns blue the farmers know that inside the natural hole is forming in the middle of the bead and they can now start to harvest the ones on the ground that wind or bird has dislodged from tree or they can start to harvest those fruits that are totally blue and still on tree........and again some of ripened fruit is eaten by all nature of bird and small animal and insect.......and all this is natural as fruit ripens......there is no known animal that eats the Rudraksha Bead itself due to its hardness.........would be like eating rocks.......this is due to the protective nature of the Holy Bead to protect the seeds that are inside the chambers in the Bead itself........man has to grind the Beads to powder for Ayurvedic Medicine............an exception to this is that if a Rudraksha Bead is left on ground from some time after season there are some insects that have the ability to bore a hole in the Bead to prove a bead is natural and authentic all you have to do is look at the natural hole on the mouth part and tail part........those with experience in this can tell in an instant as there is no secret to this identification Floating in glass of water or sinking in glass of water is old sellers trick from years ago......TRUTH is found in Science of Specific Gravity.........meaning how much water is already in each bead in relation to volume of water it is put in if you put a newly harvested bead in water it still has alot of water inside from growing season and it will sink to a level in the glass where its specific gravity of water matches the volume of water it is in............so water content in new harvest bead will match specific gravity of container of water and sink to its balanced level Then there is the story by sellers that states is only an authentic Rudraksha if it floats......this story comes from those who have a lot of older Rudraksha that are dry or have been oiled and left to soak up oil so they will float TRUTH is a dry Rudraksh Bead from last years harvest will float becaues it has dried out........in addition if you oil any bead it will float because all the pores in the woody pulp are filled with oil so it floats on top of water to make long story short Rudra Center only buys authentic beads from known farmer families in Nepal......they know we distribute worldwide and according to Siva Purana......and we give all knowledge about the Holy Beads and where they come from on our website to guide those new to the History of the Holy Rudraksha........we also have authentication in India and the US when I saw your message what honestly surprised me the most is that the people you mentioned are still talking and talking year after year and seems that is all they are continueing to do..........Mr Ole has also been to Rudra Center Home Office and still he conducts himself on internet like he doesnt know some of the information on the Holy Beads......so there are those that like to hear themselves talk and take energy from others while they are doing this and then there are those that are to busy with their works of service to be talking so much about secrets...........as there are no secrets Rudra Center was established with the Mission to reveal all the TRUE KNOWLEDGE from the Puranas that we could find so people could read for themselves.......... so no one has to talk about much of this.....they only have to read and wear the Authentic Rudraksha supplied by trusted Friends There is no part in my answer to your question that is meant to malign any of those who are on the other groupsite mentioned as they are as much a part of Almighty Gods Creation as we are...........however if you were walking down road with me and you were about to step in deep hole in ground and hurt yourself I would certainly mention that it might be a good idea for us to stop for a minute and analyze how to traverse the hole in ground so you would hurt yourself Just my perception of how one needs to speak and act according to Sanatana Dharma.........those who do no know and have the ability to ask the question have earned the right to a TRUTHFUL ANSWER Aum NamaSivaya Sivaya Nama Aum Dhanyavaad cha Pranams DD , " rudraksha67 " <satyadharma wrote: > > Dear Sirs, > > Namaskar > > I just read on sacred objects group about Rudraksha that ALL beads > from Nepal are harvested unripen and either sold like this or put in > oil to get old ripen look and sink in water. Is this true?? How can > one prove that a bead is naturally ripen? > > Thanking you, > > Satyadharma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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