Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dear Rajiv ji, The Great Masters you mentioned in your message were connected to the divine source directly....they did not need their body. People with Kundalini risen do not worry about the corporeal sufferings(as Nikhil ji so wonderfully mentioned in his message). The body undergoes the process of aging and decaying, but their divinity did not suffer because of the body. The decay of the body did not interrupt their blissful living. Reading about these Masters is so inspirational...below is an excerpt: .....Ramakrishna was dying. He had cancer of the throat, and in his last days it became impossible for him even to drink water. Vivekananda said to him, " Bhagwan, can't you ask God to do you just a little favor? If you simply ask God that at least you should be allowed to eat and drink it is bound to happen. It is becoming too great a suffering for your body – and not only for your body but for us all. We cannot eat because we know you cannot eat. It has become impossible for us to drink because we know you cannot drink. How can we drink? So if you don't care about yourself, okay, but think of us – we are also suffering. Just for our sake close your eyes and say to God, 'Do me just a small favor.' " Ramakrishna closed his eyes, opened them and started laughing. He said, " You fool! If I listen to your advice God will laugh at me. I asked him.... " He said, " God said, 'Ramakrishna, you have eaten with this throat for so many years – can't you now eat and drink with the throats of your disciples?' And Ramakrishna said, " Vivekananda, So stop torturing yourself, suffering, because now that I have lost my throat, I have to depend on your throats. Eat as much as you can – a little more than usual, because a part of it has to go to me. Drink a little more than usual because there will be my share, too. So eat, drink and rejoice, because God has said, 'Ramakrishna, you can eat through your disciples' bodies. Why depend on this body? And this body is gone and rotten!' " 2: Ramakrishna's Paramhansa: Leaving the Body and Sharda Ma At the time of Ramakrishna's death, it had become clear three days before that Ramakrishna is taking leave now. So his wife Sharda became very worried and upset. Ramakrishna asked her, " Why do you cry? Because the one who is, is not going to die. And did you love this body known as me or did you love the one who is? " Sharda said, " I loved the one who is. " Ramakrishna said, " Then drop the worry. Then, when he who is not dies, do not break your bangles. " There was only one widow in India who did not break her bangles after her husband's death Then Ramakrishna died. Everybody else cried and wept but Sharda did not agree to break her bangles. She remained the same as she always was. Everybody said, " What are you doing? Ramakrishna is dead. " She said, " One who has died was not there in the first place, and the one who was there, still is. These bangles are in this memory. Sharda remained a bride even after Ramakrishna's death. She never said that Ramakrishna is dead and whenever somebody asked she would say, " That body had become worn and torn, he has only changed clothes. " In reality, only clothes are changed, only garbs are changed. , Nikhil V <nikhil_v23 wrote: > > Dear Friend, > > Why on earth would a person with his kundali awakened feel the need to visit someone to photograph his aura ?? You may like to note that people with their kundali awakened would be very self aware. they may not feel compelled to meet someone who claims to photograph their aura.... afterall why should they get their aura photographed when their kundalini is awake and they could know just about anything they want to.... all they have to do is just plug themselves into the universal power > > A business man concerned about protecting his wealth or wanting to accumulate more wealth or a new age spiritualist dabling in everything with a spiritual tag are not exactly the type of candidates who may have their kundalini awakened. its not to mean that such people cant have their kundali awakened, but that awakening of kundalini among such people would be a result of a rare accident than due to spiritual practices. So there is a good chance that none of your 20,000 clients had their kundalini awakened and may not have it awakened for births to come > > " But ideally if their Kundalini had raised then they would been in the supreme of their health and not died because of Diabetes or cancer ???? " > > Kundalini awakened or asleep if you are born with a corporeal body, you have to die. disease is just a reason / pretex .....  Krishna had to vacate his body when the time came, (offcource people would say his business on earth was finished when he desided to leave.... but that appart, i'd say even Lord Vishnu knows that it would be against the laws of nature (his own laws) to unnecessarily prolong the corporeal body) > > I am an Aura Therapist and have taken Aura of several hundred very known personalities like the few who teaches yoga or different meditations and despite taking 20,000 Auras in India and abroad (various countries) still I have not come across even one individual with raised Kundalini. Trust me, I have seen Auras of the big business man, actors, various swamijis and several other very known personalities. > > Frankly I doubt the reliability of so called aura therapy.... reminds me of the attempts of people to photograph ghosts..... in the aftermath of the hippie generation, lost of new age spiritualists try to blend old spirituality with modern science.... let me tell you one thing... you cant explain everything with modern day science when the basic rules of physics and chemistry are changing everyday or being challenged..... (check our M theory which challenges our present definition of space and time ) in future I am sure there would ne new theories which challenges the then set sules too    in such context how can one rely on some quirky instrument based on the same inaccurate science > > > If you really want to meet people with awakened kundalini.. i suggest you take a trip to the neighboring state Gujarat... there is a pace called Girnar.... wander in the girnar hills.. I am sure you would come across many such enlightened ones. we are talking about the real deal... not some amateur > > GOOD LUCK > > > > --- On Sat, 14/2/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 > RBSC : Kundalini Awakening > > Saturday, 14 February, 2009, 6:46 PM > > Hare Krishna , > > Could you name any person in the whole world whose Kundalini is raised and he is alive so that we can know his experiences. > I understand that people say that Ramkrishna Parmahansa or Swami Vivekanada had Kundalini raised and they were in eternal bliss. But ideally if their Kundalini had raised then they would been in the supreme of their health and not died because of Diabetes or cancer ???? >  > I am an Aura Therapist and have taken Aura of several hundred very known personalities like the few who teaches yoga or different meditations and despite taking 20,000 Auras in India and abroad (various countries) still I have not come across even one individual with raised Kundalini. Trust me, I have seen Auras of the big business man, actors, various swamijis and several other very known personalities. > > > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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