Guest guest Posted July 1, 1999 Report Share Posted July 1, 1999 Today, Vivekananda Centre wrote: <snip> VC>'Alan Watts' may be a good Western Scholar, but learning Hinduism VC>from him? If anyone is serious about learning Hinduism he should VC>look up the contributions of these recent figures VC> VC>(1) Sri Ramakrishna VC>(2) Sri Raman Maharshi VC>(3) Vivekananda <snip> An excellent list, but I'd add some others to it as well: (4) Sri Aurobindo (5) Swami Prabhavananda (6) Christopher Isherwood (educated western perspective of an actual student of the Dharma as opposed to Watts, who was a Zen Buddhist/Taoist). And really, anyone *serious* about Hinduism should go as close to the original texts as possible. I'd suggest these five reads (all available at Vedanta Press, I think) for beginners: 1. THE UPANISHADS: BREATH OF THE ETERNAL. Swami Prabhavananda/Frederick Manchester. English paraphrase of the principal Upanishads. 2. THE UPADESHA SAHASRI (THOUSAND TEACHINGS) of SRI SHANKARACARYA. If I knew how easy this text was to follow, I would have ordered it two years ago. The Ramakrishna Math edition is *highly* recommended. 3. HOW TO KNOW GOD: THE YOGA APHORISMS OF PATANJALI. Prabhavananda/ Isherwood. Good general introduction to the only school of Indian philosophy instantly comprehensible to beginners. 4. CRADLE TALES OF HINDUISM. Sister Nivedita. What we call Hinduism isn't just a philosophy, after all. 5. THE BHAGAVAD-GITA. It's hard to pick a favorite translation; Sir Edwin Arnold's is still my favorite as a translation even though it's not entirely faithful to the text at times, as Arnold was a gifted literary genius and his translation reads like Shakespeare. Still, Arnold's translation is free on the Web (URL available upon request), so for money-spending I'd splurge $10 or so and get the Gambhirananda translation of the Gita with Shankara's commentary from Advaita Ashrama, skipping all of the Sanskrit passages. It's 600+ pages, but very easy to read. In addition, for those of a strong Christian background I recommend: 6. THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT ACCORDING TO VEDANTA. Swami Prabhavananda. I second Jay's recommendation of Swami Vivekananda, and third, and fourth it -- it's worth the $30 to buy his eight-volume collected works, IMHO, as the man is an excellent popularizer and explains many difficult concepts painlessly. One caveat: almost all names on this list are Advaitins. When Vivekananda says Hinduism, he means Advaita. When Shankara writes, he's describing Advaita. Many Hindus by birth actually living the life are not technically dedicated to the specific ideals of Advaita; it is one of six sampradaayas (paths). So for an alternative perspective, check out Shrisha Rao's most excellent Dvaita/Tattvavaada FAQ at http://www.dvaita.org. You will not be disappointed. (I myself contribute to this site and find its mailing list to be absolutely indespensible.) When you get a little more advanced in your studies, splurge at Vedanta Press for a copy of: 7. THE BRAHMA-SUTRAS ACCORDING TO SRI RAMANUJA. Even though Ramanuja was a non-dualist just as Shankara was, his philosophy is regarded as being more in line with the ideal of personalized bhakti and the extremely linear/rational Brahma-Sutras, particularly with Ramanuja's commentary, will be a striking contrast to the other works described above. I warn you, though: this *is* a somewhat difficult text, and you probably don't want to read it until you're comfortable in your skin with the other texts. Oh, one other caveat: I'm not an expert. Still, if you run into a word you don't understand or would like my recommendations on anything, feel free to drop me a line. Peace, Tom " Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods. " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 1999 Report Share Posted July 2, 1999 The consciousness of Atman as opposed to the existence of Atman We may all agree that there is nothing but Consciousness. Yet, because there is One, thus - must there be infinity. An infinity …… of multiplicity identifying itself; Just as the count of one begets infinite number. Unbound - except to itself Knowing - by the re-cognition of itself! Pre-cognition of itself, It IS – yet the re-cognition has not yet occurred. The constituents of Pre-cognition are Time and consciousness in unity; Spatial or physical reality is not yet manifest. Because re-cognition constitutes awareness itself – and of itself – re-cognition - is that which constitutes the infinite consciousness. Because consciousness exists Pre-recognition e.g we are conscious of other things before the recognition of something else, consciousness thus exists Pre-cognition. Consciousness therefore exists beyond mind itself. Consciousness in this way is existent beyond cognition; and is thus self-aware! In a creation……. Of a timeless birth – born of itself, within itself, out of itself. Thus! - we have Cosmos. Cosmos, an ocean of concepts An ocean of the unformed flashes forth An ocean of potency – Ultimately! Of Concept itself! Hence – the never ending ladder of evolution evoluting, changing, manifesting. Of beings and objects, of worlds, from dreams to waking From young to old, from ignorant to aware; Manifesting - from the light of Consciousness Ever conscious, Consciousness conscious of being conscious. Car knows car, table knows table for the light vibration has given it form, texture, hardness which form is not only defined by its physical attributes but also by it’s interaction with Consciousness/Light through Consciousness/Light in various forms. Thus a car knows car-ness through being driven by light in the form of a human, through light in the form of air, on light in the form of road, moving with light in the form of tyres. Thus, the car is conscious as a car, perceiving as only a car can. As humans, So too are we defined by the same light. Yet, looking at this from the level of energy So can we understand - That a human is conscious as a human. The “I-ness” that allows us to perceive as a human Is based on the perception that we are the doer, the controller Where the consciousness manifests due Mind delusions of individual I-ness of physicalness – of I am - body of emotion – of anger, sadness, happiness, being measures of the validity of individual I of thought – I am the thinker of sense – smell, taste, seeing..etc of cosmic I-ness - All of which are that non-different light/Consciousness which maintains the existence of car and table. Consciousness, is constantly conscious of Itself. Yet the very awareness as Consciousness being conscious of Itself is denied, blinded - by the very I-ness of individuality Where separation - Of I am the doer, The perceiver, the controller - Demanding interaction with separation - isolates the Oneness from acknowledgement of itself - within the consciousness of that perceiver into the multiplicity of Cosmos. In This-ness – By perception we have Thing-ness Again we are deluded by cognition itself. We name a thing (conceptualize) this or that Ascribing this or that as this or that; In that moment we then have I-ness. *********************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 1999 Report Share Posted July 2, 1999 Dear Tom, By and large I agree with your choices but wonder why you did not include Shankara's Prabhavananda/Ishwerwood CREST-JEWEL OF DISCRIMINATION? And I have to say that their BHAGAVAD-GITA is my favorite Gita: concise, easy to read and understand, in beautiful language. Thanks for your input. edtipple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Brahman means 'Creation' (Manifest, Saguna) as well as Potential (Unmanifest, Nirguna). The purpose of all existence is to understand the creation (brahman) and its laws (dharma), and to become one with the creation. There is nothing apart from the creation. It is a mass of energy-intelligence. The purport of the vedas is only to say that " All this is indeed Brahman. " --- Gurorangripadme ManaScenna Lagnam tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim!? Sarva Kartha, Sarva Dhartha, Sarva Hartha, Mangalam! Satchidananda, Satchidananda, Satchidananda Mangalam! Tasmai Sri Guru-murthaye Nama Idam Sri Dakshinamurtaye! Ata Nityo Narayanaha, Brahma Narayanaha, Sivascha Narayanaha, Kalascha Narayanaha. Disascha Narayanaha, Vidisascha Narayanaha, Urdwamscha Narayanaha, Adhascha Narayanaha, Antar-bahischa-Narayana.Narayana Eh Vedam Sarvam, Yat BhootamYacchha Bhavyam.Nish-kalango Niranjano Nirvikalpo Nirakyadhas,suddhho Deva Eko Narayanaha, Na dwiteeyosthi kaschit,ya evam Vedas Vishnu reva Bhavati, Sa Vishnureva Bhavathi, Etat yajur veda sirodeeyathe. ~*Om * Ayim * Hreem * Sreem * Siva * Rama * Anagha * Dattaya * Namaha*~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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