Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 The Divine reality revealed… The Truth of the Father and the Son “If we do not understand the reality of Jesus it will be impossible to understand the reality of Sai Baba. And how can we understand the reality of Jesus? We can only understand the reality of Jesus when we understand our own very reality. This is because we are one with God,†says Rev. Father Charles Francis Ogada CSSP (from the order of the Holy Ghost Fathers and Brothers), in reply to a question asked by Juan Carlos Ponce de Leon, an ardent Sai devotee from Peru in the course of an interview in January 2007. In this engaging and enlightening conversation you will find the learned Father clarifying concepts and verses, ideas and idiosyncracies that have convoluted the Christian mindset for centuries. As we celebrate the Advent of the Embodiment of Sacrifice and Love this month, it is only apt that we understand and appreciate in the right light the immortal message that He so graciously left behind for us. The Voice of the Father Juan: I didn’t know that a Father like you was going to speak at Christmas in the Divine Presence. When I heard it my heart felt very happy. Your speech was like a birthday gift to me. Swami also mentioned you a number of times in His discourse. Father Charles: Yes. He said that I had been devoted to Him right from childhood. J: You didn’t know that? FC: No. That was a revelation for me. When He said that I remembered all that happened to me during my childhood – my spiritual experiences as a child became alive to me. He was the One who was drawing me, preparing me, and bringing me closer to Himself. And when the right time comes, everything happens according to His Plan. Drawn into the Divine Net of Sai J: Tell us how you came to know about Swami. Father Charles Ogada delivering his Christmas speech in the Divine Presence FC: Many people think that they have come to Swami out of their own effort. But this is not the case. It is Swami who has drawn us to Himself. Jesus also said it: "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him" This is my experience. I have told you what happened to me when I was seventeen years old… how the Voice said to me, “What would you want to do with this life?†That Voice filled my Soul and Heart with so much Love. I replied: “What else Father, but to give this life to You.†From that very moment the external world became meaningless to me. When you taste the bliss of the Spirit, every other thing will become insipid to you. I started thinking how to give this life to the Father. Prior to this encounter, I was preparing to enter the University to read medicine. I changed my mind because I thought that the best way to give this life to God was by joining a religious order. I then joined the congregation of the Holy Ghost Fathers and Brothers, the Spiritans. excerpt from h-h talk by Father Charles Ogada Ram ChuganiKobe, Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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