Guest guest Posted May 19, 1999 Report Share Posted May 19, 1999 At 09:56 PM 5/19/99 +0530, you wrote: >Anurag Goel <anurag > > >it's ok there is no insult. The answer to these questions tell me who am >i n why do i exist ? They will tell me wat is life ? Instead of asking, try sitting in meditation, and utterly quiet the mind so that there are no thoughts. Then invite Grace to come in with an open heart, and such questions will never again be meaningful. Only experience can remove ignorance. In such questions as you ask, you will only find further questions, and more confusion. The more you know, the more you will find that there is nothing that can be known, or need be known. Hari OM, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 1999 Report Share Posted May 19, 1999 U r right only experience will provide the answer. On Wed, 19 May 1999, Tim Gerchmez wrote: > Tim Gerchmez <fewtch > > At 09:56 PM 5/19/99 +0530, you wrote: > >Anurag Goel <anurag > > > > > >it's ok there is no insult. The answer to these questions tell me who am > >i n why do i exist ? They will tell me wat is life ? > > Instead of asking, try sitting in meditation, and utterly quiet the mind so > that there are no thoughts. Then invite Grace to come in with an open > heart, and such questions will never again be meaningful. > > Only experience can remove ignorance. In such questions as you ask, you > will only find further questions, and more confusion. The more you know, > the more you will find that there is nothing that can be known, or need be > known. > > Hari OM, > > Tim > > ----- > Visit The Core of the WWW at: > http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html > Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. > > Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: > http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html > > ------ > Are you hogging all the fun? > > Friends tell friends about ONElist! > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 1999 Report Share Posted May 20, 1999 In a message dated 5/19/99 12:57:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, fewtch writes: << utterly quiet the mind so that there are no thoughts. >> Swami Vivekananda said if you want to stop or quiet the mind then hit yourself over the head with a baseball bat. That will quiet your mind. " Meditation and Its Methods " is a wonderful book by Swamiji on meditation. As a teacher of meditation for the last 20 years, I can tell you that Swami Vivekananda's teachings about letting the mind run free, giving it free rein is the only way to get into the state of meditation. When we attempt to quiet the mind, it becomes more unruly. You may want to read that book and also " Meditation " by the Monks of the Ramakrishna Order. That is a wonderful book on various methods for meditation. Hari Om! Jody (Premadevi) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 1999 Report Share Posted May 22, 1999 On Thu, 20 May 1999 JodyHolly1 wrote: > JodyHolly1 > > In a message dated 5/19/99 12:57:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > fewtch writes: > > << utterly quiet the mind so > that there are no thoughts. >> > Swami Vivekananda said if you want to stop or quiet the mind then hit > yourself over the head with a baseball bat. That will quiet your mind. > " Meditation and Its Methods " is a wonderful book by Swamiji on meditation. > As a teacher of meditation for the last 20 years, > I can tell you that Swami > Vivekananda's teachings about letting the mind run free, giving it free rein > is the only way to get into the state of meditation. Not be bothered by it's wandering if one continues to concentrate on mantraa or prayer. It also works . One can also divert the mind to peaceful n pleasant thoughts that help it go quicker in to meditative state. When we attempt to > quiet the mind, it becomes more unruly. You may want to read that book and > also " Meditation " by the Monks of the Ramakrishna Order. That is a wonderful > book on various methods for meditation. > > Hari Om! > > Jody (Premadevi) > > ------ > Looking to expand your world? > > ONElist has nearly 150,000 e-mail communities from which to chose! > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 1999 Report Share Posted May 23, 1999 At 03:48 AM 5/23/99 +0530, you wrote: >Anurag Goel <anurag >Not be bothered by it's wandering if one continues to concentrate on >mantraa or prayer. Continuing to concentrate on mantrams or prayers, the mind tends to quiet of itself. I agree with these posts, that the mind cannot be quieted by will. But the mind can become quiet of itself, as a result of doing other things. Concentration is one. I also have " my own " technique of active listening, that is - ignoring all thoughts in the mind (to the extent possible) and listening to sounds around as absolutely intently as possible. Visualization on one thing (the visual equivalent of a mantram) also works quite well... for example, I envision myself in a field of clear white light, then " become " that field of light, so there is no " myself " there anymore. I like to experiment in meditation. I've found many " nonscriptural " techniques that produce a meditative state and a quiet mind. What works for one, may not work for another. Forever standing free of dogma, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Tim's Windows and DOS Shareware/Freeware is at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/shareware.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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