Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Dear Barry, Thank you for your kind message. I am forwarding your message to the list. I would request you to address any question you may have to Jay (List owner) at " vivekananda " , in future. This way you can address the whole list. I would also like to mention that I am in no way an authority on Scriptures. I am just another student of philosophy. I believe that I still have a long way to go. Fortunately, there are great scholars available on these lists and I keep learning a lot from them. I am sure they can respond to your questions in an authentic way. You won't be disappointed. All the best. Kind Regards, Madhava > > Barry Pittard [sMTP:bpittard] > Tuesday, July 13, 1999 7:53 AM > Madhava K. Turumella > Re: Saptarishi > > This is most kind of you all. Thank you very much. > > I would really like to challenge the creativity of your group. The > questions I would like to put most squarely are very simply these: > > 1. What do the sources (in different periods) relate about these sages? > (You have given some interesting > leads). > 2. Who were the " real " authors of the different nadisastra traditions, > and > when did they live? > 3. Did some authors choose the names of certain Vedic Rishis as > author-pseudonyms, and why? > > I'm not sure whether the most satisfying answers to these questions lie > nicely compacted in the references on Jay's and Madhava's bookshelves. On > the other hand, members of your group may have some good contacts round > the > world either personally or else as scholarly references. For example, do > any of you have family/friends/acquaintances/colleagues who have explored > nadisastra in any way. It is interesting just how many of my Indian > friends, etc., have done. Of course, I'm running out of friends and have > to > ask ever more widely! > > If you should be curious why such questions occupy me by night and day, I > shall be glad to inform you. In the meantime, I am very grateful for > making > your acquaintance. > > Barry > > - > Madhava K. Turumella <madhava > Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda; > <bpittard > Monday, June 28, 1999 1:04 AM > RE: Saptarishi > > > > > > > ----Original Message----- > > > Vivekananda Centre [sMTP:vivekananda] > > > Friday, June 25, 1999 5:38 PM > > > Madhava K. Turumella > > > Saptarishi > > > > > > Hi Madhava > > > > > > I would like to send some form of reply to Barry about Saptarishi > > > Can you do something for me? > > > > > > This is the last message I had from him. I have some puranic books in > the > > > house but I do not know exactly where the reference may be. Try and > give > > > Barry some kind of guidance or atleast an idea which books and > portions > he > > > should refer to ! > > > > > > regards > > > jay > > > =================copy of correspondence=========== > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > > Thank you, indeed. I am most grateful and shall look eagerly forward > to > > > replies >from some of the scholars in (your) group.< > > > > > > Barry Pittard > > > - > > > Vivekananda Centre > > > Barry Pittard > > > Monday, June 21, 1999 5:05 PM > > > Re: Saptarsi > > > > > > > > > We will revert soon with replies from some of the scholars in our > group. > > > jay > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > > > > > > > Barry Pittard <bpittard > > > hindu <hindu > > > 21 June 1999 05:16 > > > Saptarsi > > > > > > > > > In an area where I find paucity, I'm looking for any quality studies > that > > > get as close as possible to who and what certain ancient Indian sages > > > actually were or well might have been. > > > > > > For my study on nadisastra of different traditions, in different parts > of > > > India, I require as much information as I can get on the Sapta Rishis > - > > > the > > > seven Rishis of Vedic times, sometimes called Saptarsi - Gautama, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > > > Dear Barry, > > > > Greetings! > > > > Jay has requested me to help you in this regard. Since you are > > looking at in depth information, I am going to refer books where you > can, > > for sure, find information. > > > > gautama = In Vishnu Purana, gautama curses the other sages. They > > become demons because of his curse. Lord Vishnu saves them with the help > of > > Siva. At this context you can find full information about Gautama, > there > is > > a reference to the naDiSastra here. There are 6 Gautamas (sages with > same > > name) mentioned in our puranas. But the one in Vishnupurana is the > Vedic > > seer. > > > > > Bharadwaja, Vishwamitra, Jamadagni, Vasishta, Kasyapa, Atri; who also, > in > > > Astronomy, correspond to the constellation Ursa Major, commonly known > as > > > the > > > Big Dipper. > > > > > [Madhava Replies:] > > All the above are mentioned in PadmaPurana. About, Vishvamitra and > > Vasista please refer " Srimad Ramayana i.e. vAlmiki ramayana, > bAlakanda). > > > > > > > Other sages about whom I am always striving to get more decent FACTUAL > > > information about are: > > > > > > Bhrighu, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Vishnupurana > > > > > Shuka, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Mahabhagawatam > > > > > Shukra, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Vamanapurana > > > > > Druva, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Vishnupurana > > > > > Amsa, Agasthya, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Sivapurana > > > > > Kousika, Koumara, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > PadmaPurana > > > > > Kakbhusandi, Bhoga, Pullipani, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > I don't think... Bhoga and Pullipani are not vedic seers, as per my > > understanding. Please let me know where you came across these names. > > > > > Vashista, Vishwamitra, Parasara, Sahadeva > > > > > > Can you or other colleagues suggest? > > > > > > Barry Pittard > > [Madhava Replies:] > > > > There is a book published by Penguin regarding Indian Sages. I do > > not have any of the above puranic books at hand. Hence, referring from > > memory. Also, all these puranas (in English) will have indexes, so I > am > > presuming that you will not find it difficult in finding the cantos. > > > > Please do not hesitate to contact me or jay in case you need any > > more reference. > > > > Best Regards, > > Madhava > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 Wat is " NadiShastra " ? Wat does it deal with ? u just want to know abt these sages n when did they live ? Or r u looking for knowledge abt some something specific which these sages knew. If that is the case can u specify that. On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Madhava K. Turumella wrote: > " Madhava K. Turumella " <madhava > > Dear Barry, > > Thank you for your kind message. I am forwarding your message to the list. > I would request you to address any question you may have to Jay (List owner) > at " vivekananda " , in future. This way you can address the > whole list. > > I would also like to mention that I am in no way an authority on Scriptures. > I am just another student of philosophy. I believe that I still have a long > way to go. Fortunately, there are great scholars available on these lists > and I keep learning a lot from them. I am sure they can respond to your > questions in an authentic way. You won't be disappointed. All the best. > > Kind Regards, > Madhava > > > > > > Barry Pittard [sMTP:bpittard] > > Tuesday, July 13, 1999 7:53 AM > > Madhava K. Turumella > > Re: Saptarishi > > > > This is most kind of you all. Thank you very much. > > > > I would really like to challenge the creativity of your group. The > > questions I would like to put most squarely are very simply these: > > > > 1. What do the sources (in different periods) relate about these sages? > > (You have given some interesting > > leads). > > 2. Who were the " real " authors of the different nadisastra traditions, > > and > > when did they live? > > 3. Did some authors choose the names of certain Vedic Rishis as > > author-pseudonyms, and why? > > > > I'm not sure whether the most satisfying answers to these questions lie > > nicely compacted in the references on Jay's and Madhava's bookshelves. On > > the other hand, members of your group may have some good contacts round > > the > > world either personally or else as scholarly references. For example, do > > any of you have family/friends/acquaintances/colleagues who have explored > > nadisastra in any way. It is interesting just how many of my Indian > > friends, etc., have done. Of course, I'm running out of friends and have > > to > > ask ever more widely! > > > > If you should be curious why such questions occupy me by night and day, I > > shall be glad to inform you. In the meantime, I am very grateful for > > making > > your acquaintance. > > > > Barry > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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