Guest guest Posted August 20, 1999 Report Share Posted August 20, 1999 I am giving below the questions put by Mrs..M.A.Piggot, who visited Sri Ramanasramam in 1930 and Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi's replies to these questions. Mrs. Piggot: What are the hindrances to the realization of the true Self? " Maharshi: Memory chiefly, habits of thought, accumulated tendencies. " Mrs.P: " How does one get rid of these hindrances? " M: " Seek for the Self through meditation in this manner. Trace every thought back to its origin, which is only the mind. Never allow thought to run on. If you do, it will be unending. Take it back to its starting place-the mind-again and again, and it and the mind will both die of inaction. The mind only exists by reason of thought. Stop that and there is no mind. As each doubt and depression arises, ask yourself, 'Who is it that doubts? What is it that is depressed?' Go back constantly and question, 'Who is the I? Where is it?' Tear everything away until there is nothing but the Source of all, left. And then live always in the present and only in it. There is no past or future, save in the mind. " Mrs.P: " How can I help another with his or her problems and troubles? " M: " What is this talk of another? There is only the One. Try and realize there is no 'I, no 'he', no 'you', only the one Self which is all. If you believe in the problem of another, you are believing in something outside the Self. You will help him better by realizing the oneness of everything than by any outward activity. The ego pertains to all the waking activities-the emotions and intellect. In deep sleep the body is still, and yet the Self is there. It is the distracting, active mind that veils the real Self. " Mrs.P: " What meditation will help me? " M: " No meditation on any kind of object is helpful. You must learn to realize the subject and object as one. In meditating on an object, whether concrete or abstract, you are destroying the sense of oneness and creating duality. Meditate on what you are in Reality. Try to realize that the body is not you, the emotions are not you, the intellect is not you. When all these are still, you will find- " Mrs. P: " What? " M: " You will discover yourself. It is not for me to say what any individual's experience will be. It will reveal Itself. Hold to That. " Mrs.P: " But in trying to still the mind, I am likely to fall asleep. " M:. " It does not matter. Put yourself into the condition as in deep sleep. Then watch. Be asleep consciously, instead of unconsciously. There will then be only one consciousness. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 1999 Report Share Posted August 20, 1999 Thanks, Mr. Ramana Sarma! I am indeed immensely grateful, for helping me to recollect the wonderful conversations of Sri Bhagawan! venkata ramana sarma podury <RPodury 'ramakrishna ' <ramakrishna > Friday, August 20, 1999 4:07 PM [ramakrishna] Realising Self >venkata ramana sarma podury <RPodury > >I am giving below the questions put by Mrs..M.A.Piggot, who visited Sri >Ramanasramam in 1930 and Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi's replies to >these questions. > > > Mrs. Piggot: What are the hindrances to the realization of the >true Self? " > > Maharshi: Memory chiefly, habits of thought, accumulated >tendencies. " > > Mrs.P: " How does one get rid of these hindrances? " > > M: " Seek for the Self through meditation in this >manner. Trace every thought back to its origin, which is only the mind. >Never allow thought to run on. If you do, it will be unending. Take it >back to its starting place-the mind-again and again, and it and the mind >will both die of inaction. The mind only exists by reason of thought. >Stop that and there is no mind. As each doubt and depression arises, ask >yourself, 'Who is it that doubts? What is it that is depressed?' Go back >constantly and question, 'Who is the I? Where is it?' Tear everything >away until there is nothing but the Source of all, left. And then live >always in the present and only in it. There is no past or future, save >in the mind. " > > Mrs.P: " How can I help another with his or her problems and >troubles? " > > M: " What is this talk of another? There is only the One. Try >and realize there is no 'I, no 'he', no 'you', only the one Self which >is all. If you believe in the problem of another, you are believing in >something outside the Self. You will help him better by realizing the >oneness of everything than by any outward activity. The ego pertains to >all the waking activities-the emotions and intellect. In deep sleep the >body is still, and yet the Self is there. It is the distracting, active >mind that veils the real Self. " > > Mrs.P: " What meditation will help me? " > >M: " No meditation on any kind of object is helpful. You must >learn to realize the subject and object as one. In meditating on an >object, whether concrete or abstract, you are destroying the sense of >oneness and creating duality. Meditate on what you are in Reality. Try >to realize that the body is not you, the emotions are not you, the >intellect is not you. When all these are still, you will find- " > >Mrs. P: " What? " > >M: " You will discover yourself. It is not for me to say what any >individual's experience will be. It will reveal Itself. Hold to That. " > >Mrs.P: " But in trying to still the mind, I am likely to fall asleep. " > > M:. " It does not matter. Put yourself into the condition as in deep >sleep. Then watch. Be asleep consciously, instead of unconsciously. >There will then be only one consciousness. " > > > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >ONElist members, don't miss out on the latest news at ONElist! >Join our community member news update ><a href= " //onelist_announce " here</A> > >------ >Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah >Vivekananda Centre London >http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 1999 Report Share Posted August 21, 1999 Venkata Ramana Sarma Podury, Thank you for your Ramana Maharshi quotes. I read the first subject very carefully: " What are the hindrances to the realization of the true SElf? " " Memory chiefly, habits of thought, accumulated tendencies. " " How does one get rid of these tendencies? " And then Ramana Maharshi's instructions. And I shall study it more carefully still. I would like to suggest that one subject and answer at a time is more helpful than grouping more than one. I found I could not concentrate on the next question -- how to help another -- because my mind was still on the first. Of less importance but also a fact is that scrolling too long on a computer screen is tiresome. Thanks again for your contribution, Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 1999 Report Share Posted August 21, 1999 > ---------- > EDTipple[sMTP:edtipple] > Reply Ramakrishna > Saturday, August 21, 1999 3:01 AM > Ramakrishna > [ramakrishna] Re: Realising Self > > EDTipple <edtipple > > Venkata Ramana Sarma Podury, > > Thank you for your Ramana Maharshi quotes. I read the first subject > very carefully: " What are the hindrances to the realization of the > true SElf? " " Memory chiefly, habits of thought, accumulated > tendencies. " " How does one get rid of these tendencies? " And then > Ramana Maharshi's instructions. And I shall study it more carefully > still. > > I would like to suggest that one subject and answer at a time is more > helpful than grouping more than one. I found I could not concentrate > on the next question -- how to help another -- because my mind was > still on the first. Of less importance but also a fact is that > scrolling too long on a computer screen is tiresome. > > Thanks again for your contribution, > Edith > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > ONElist: the best place to EXPLORE topics, SHARE ideas, and > CONNECT to people with the same interests. > > ---- > -- > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > To ED Tipple > > Thank you very much for the useful suggestions. I will keep them in > view in future postings. > > Ramana Sarma > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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