Guest guest Posted August 24, 1999 Report Share Posted August 24, 1999 Verse #18: Without knowing its burning power, the insect jumps into the glowing fire. The fish, through ignorance, eats the bait attached to the hook. We, having full discernment, do not renounce sensual desires, complicated as they are with manifold dangers. Alas, how inscrutable is the power of delusion! So only answer would seem to be: Be the Witness! Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 1999 Report Share Posted August 25, 1999 Dear Jairam, Yes, I suppose lust is a disease of the mind, whereas hunger and thirst are of the body. But are we not the body/mind complex? And did not lust originate for the purpose of physical propagation of the race? We can distinguish body and mind and yet it is only a distinction between gross and subtle, is it not, of the same basic problem? Good to hear from you, Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 1999 Report Share Posted August 25, 1999 thank you Edith and bravo for your quote from the Gospel on the many paths. my world expands thanks to you and other friends -- i so enjoy seeing the many paths as embodied in this group of sincerely spiritual people. With deep Namaste to all in our little 'e-satsang', Karen EDTipple wrote: > EDTipple <edtipple > > Karen has asked about the background of the " 100 Verses of > Renunciation " . > > According to the publisher (Advaita Ashrama, 1981), Bhartrhari was a > Mediaeval poet -- and was perhaps the elder brother of the renowned > King Vikramditya of Ujjain, though it is impossible to know for > certain. According to the editor, he belonged to a royal family and > renounced the world later in life. A cave bearing his name, near > Ujjain, is pointed out as the place he practised austerities. > > In John Garrett's " Classical Dictionary of India " he is mentioned as a > Sanskrit grammarian. > > I believe there is very little known about him that is certain. The > importance of Bhartrihari is his 100 verses on renunciation, which > stand alone. But perhaps someone else knows more about him than I, and > will respond. > Edith > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist announces " FRIENDS & FAMILY! " > For details, including our weekly drawing, go to > /info/onereachsplash3.html > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 1999 Report Share Posted August 25, 1999 I can't help myself! I still like my ice cream!! :-) - Karen Jairam Seshadri wrote: > " Jairam Seshadri " <seshadri > > > Verse #19 > > > > When the mouth is parched with thirst, man takes some cold refreshing > > (or sweetened) drink. When suffering from hunger, he swallows boiled > > rice made delicious with meat and the like. When set on fire by lust, > > he fast embraces his wife. So happiness is but the remedying of these > > diseases (of hunger, thirst, and lust). Behold how man is upset in > > the quest! > > > > To my mind, truly wry humor! > > > > Edith > > is it not true though that thirst and hunger are of the body ...ie > the body needs those biologically to survive and that lust is a > function or a 'need' of the mind. it is a craving that can be cured. > it is a disease of the mind. > > Even the need for food can be minimised to really basic needs and the > craving for decadent food is also a disease of the mind. > brings to mind Gandhiji's oft quoted line > " there is enough in this world for man's need... > not enough for his greed " > > regards > jairam > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Congratulations GENEVINCENT. Our latest ONElist of the week. > For full story and to submit yours, go to > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/ootw23 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 1999 Report Share Posted August 25, 1999 Namaste Edith > EDTipple <edtipple > > Dear Jairam, > > And did not lust originate for the purpose of physical propagation of the > race? > Kathi: I've been enjoying the verses that were posted from the Vairagya Shatakam and really looking forward to the rest of them. But I would greatly appreciate if you could elaborate more on the above statement you made. I do not seem to understand its import. Thanks a million. Om Shanti Kathi > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Congrats to our GROW TO GIVE winners, ZENtertainment & ROTInews! > > Check out ONElist's latest program, FRIENDS & FAMILY. See homepage. > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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