Guest guest Posted September 8, 1999 Report Share Posted September 8, 1999 Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and how does it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. Thanks in Advance Prashanth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 1999 Report Share Posted September 8, 1999 Dear Prashanth Obviously there are lots of intricacies involved but as far as I understand it, Mimamsaka philosophy places its emphasis on the physical performance of the vedic rituals. It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound etc can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the nature of the world etc Vedanta is of course more philosphical in its teaching and is dependant on which strand of Vedanta one follows (ie advaita, vishishtadvaita etc) Gotta get back to work now though, so I'll let someone else go into further details/tell me I'm wrong! > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:03 AM > Ramakrishna > [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and how > does > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > Thanks in Advance > Prashanth > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > <a href= " //onelist_announce " >Click</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Dear Prashant G, All I know is that there are two: Uttara Mimamsaka and Poorva Mimamsaka ideologies. Mimamsaka forms one out of six systems of Hindu Thought. c s s ============ Prashant G wrote: > > Prashant G <gprasha > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and how does > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > Thanks in Advance > Prashanth > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > <a href= " //onelist_announce " >Click</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ -- ==================================== E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html ==================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Aarti Sethia wrote: <<< It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound etc. can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the nature of the world etc. >>> I FEEL, It is not harmful if Mantras or rituals are not pronounced or performed correctly; but desirable beneficial effect (like concentration and purification of mind) may be delayed or less from incorrectly chanted Mantras or improperly performed Yagna etc. c s s -- ==================================== E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html ==================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Namaste Based on my limited knowledge on this subject, I will add to what Aarti has said. The Mimamsakas are basically ritualists and they take it to be the means to liberation (moksha). Shankara on the other hand considers Jnana (knowledge) to be the means to Liberation. This is the main difference between the 2 philosophies. You can also find an episode in Shankara's life where he debates with the most eminent scholar in Mimamsaka, Mandana Misra, & defeats him. To summarise, the Mimamsakas hold the view that Karma (rituals or action) only leads to Liberation while the Advaita Vedantins take Jnana as the ONLY means to Liberation. It is also worth to know that Shankara was not totally against the Mimamsakas. Actually, Shankara prescribes the path of Karma(work or ritual) to purify the mind so that finally one can take up the path of Jnana. Vedanta is also called Uttara Mimamsa. If you are looking for a book to that can elucidate on this, The Spiritual Heritage of India by Swami Prabhavananda will come in useful. It is a fantastic book that covers all the philosophies that arose in India and Swamiji provides the salient points in each school of thought. Om Shanti Kathi > > Aarti Sethia [sMTP:aarti.sethia] > Wednesday, September 08, 1999 9:13 PM > 'Ramakrishna ' > RE: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > Aarti Sethia <aarti.sethia > > Dear Prashanth > > Obviously there are lots of intricacies involved but as far as I > understand > it, Mimamsaka philosophy places its emphasis on the physical performance > of > the vedic rituals. It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are > done > exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the > specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound > etc > can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the nature > of > the world etc > > Vedanta is of course more philosphical in its teaching and is dependant on > which strand of Vedanta one follows (ie advaita, vishishtadvaita etc) > > Gotta get back to work now though, so I'll let someone else go into > further > details/tell me I'm wrong! > > > > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > > Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:03 AM > > Ramakrishna > > [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and > how > > does > > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > > > > Thanks in Advance > > Prashanth > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > > <a href= " //onelist_announce " >Click</a> > > > > ------ > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > Vivekananda Centre London > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! > For details and to order, go to: > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/tshirt1 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Daer Arathi., Thanx very much for this info, I thought the Mimamsaka philosophers say that if there is a God, He is subjected to our fruitive activities., is this fruitive activity means Vedic ruituals or our daily Karma.? sarvam vasudevamayam jagath Prashanth > Dear Prashanth > > Obviously there are lots of intricacies involved but as far as I understand > it, Mimamsaka philosophy places its emphasis on the physical performance of > the vedic rituals. It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done > exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the > specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound etc > can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the nature of > the world etc > > Vedanta is of course more philosphical in its teaching and is dependant on > which strand of Vedanta one follows (ie advaita, vishishtadvaita etc) > > Gotta get back to work now though, so I'll let someone else go into further > details/tell me I'm wrong! > > > > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > > Wednesday, September 08, 1999 7:03 AM > > Ramakrishna > > [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and how > > does > > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > > > > Thanks in Advance > > Prashanth > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > > <a href= " //onelist_announce " >Click</a> > > > > ------ > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > Vivekananda Centre London > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > ONElist now has T-SHIRTS! > For details and to order, go to: > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/tshirt1 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Dear Shah ., Thanx very much. As I was going through yesterday I also found that it is one of the 6 systems of Vedic philosophy. The 6 systems are Mimasaka,Samkya, Nyaya,mayavadi,Patanjali, and Vedic sarvam vasudevamayam jagath Prashanth > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > Dear Prashant G, > All I know is that there are two: Uttara Mimamsaka and Poorva Mimamsaka > ideologies. Mimamsaka forms one out of six systems of Hindu Thought. > c s s > ============ > Prashant G wrote: > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and how does > > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > > Thanks in Advance > > Prashanth > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > > <a href= " //onelist_announce " >Click</a> > > > > ------ > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > Vivekananda Centre London > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > -- > ==================================== > E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html > http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html > ==================================== > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > taking part in market research studies! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 It depends of course on the type of mistake. However there are several examples where, if the mantra is intoned incorrectly, (when it is recited for the purpose of attaining moksha), then it causes the opposite effect! However I think later on in Sanatana dharma history, began to infer that it was the intention that had its effect. > > Dr C S Shah [sMTP:drcssha] > Thursday, September 09, 1999 2:46 AM > Ramakrishna > Re: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > Aarti Sethia wrote: > <<< It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done > exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the > specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound > etc. can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the > nature of the world etc. >>> > > I FEEL, It is not harmful if Mantras or rituals are not pronounced or > performed correctly; but desirable beneficial effect (like concentration > and purification of mind) may be delayed or less from incorrectly > chanted Mantras or improperly performed Yagna etc. > c s s > -- > ==================================== > E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html > http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html > ==================================== > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > taking part in market research studies! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Dr C S Shah wrote: > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > Aarti Sethia wrote: > <<< It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done > exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the > specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound > etc. can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the > nature of the world etc. >>> > > I FEEL, It is not harmful if Mantras or rituals are not pronounced or > performed correctly; but desirable beneficial effect (like concentration > and purification of mind) may be delayed or less from incorrectly > chanted Mantras or improperly performed Yagna etc. > c s s > -- Depends on the mantraa some r very powerful n a wrong pronunciation of them can cause havoc in one's life. I personally don't think that i recite all the mantraas with all perfection but still the trust in Pujya Gurudev , love n sacredness towards Mantra, towards sadhana , n detachment frm the result of Sadhana does give results. I believe watever u uttered offer it to lord n Pujya Gurudev. If something is wrong he will take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Aarti Sethia wrote: > Aarti Sethia <aarti.sethia > > It depends of course on the type of mistake. However there are several > examples where, if the mantra is intoned incorrectly, (when it is recited > for the purpose of attaining moksha), then it causes the opposite effect! > However I think later on in Sanatana dharma history, began to infer that it > was the intention that had its effect. True i too think that feelings n recitation of mantraa affect each other. There is one story too abt the good feelings n wrong prayer. I wrote it down to post on one list. I will find it n post. > > > > > Dr C S Shah [sMTP:drcssha] > > Thursday, September 09, 1999 2:46 AM > > Ramakrishna > > Re: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > > > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > > > Aarti Sethia wrote: > > <<< It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done > > exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the > > specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound > > etc. can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the > > nature of the world etc. >>> > > > > I FEEL, It is not harmful if Mantras or rituals are not pronounced or > > performed correctly; but desirable beneficial effect (like concentration > > and purification of mind) may be delayed or less from incorrectly > > chanted Mantras or improperly performed Yagna etc. > > c s s > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Namaste Prashanth The word Mayavadi is usually used as a derogatory term for Advaita Vedanta. And the 6 systems I've been introduced to are : Nyaya, Vaisesika, Yoga, Purva Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), Sankhya and Vedanta (Uttara Mimamsa). It differs from the ones you've mentioned. May I know from which source did you get this information? Thanks a million. Om Shanti Kathi > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:05 PM > Ramakrishna > Re: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > Prashant G <gprasha > > Dear Shah ., > > Thanx very much. As I was going through yesterday I also found that it is > one of > the 6 systems of Vedic philosophy. > > The 6 systems are > > Mimasaka,Samkya, Nyaya,mayavadi,Patanjali, and Vedic > > > sarvam vasudevamayam jagath > Prashanth > > > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > > > Dear Prashant G, > > All I know is that there are two: Uttara Mimamsaka and Poorva Mimamsaka > > ideologies. Mimamsaka forms one out of six systems of Hindu Thought. > > c s s > > ============ > > Prashant G wrote: > > > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and > how > does > > > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > > > > Thanks in Advance > > > Prashanth > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > > > > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > > > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > > > <a href= " //onelist_announce > " >Click</a> > > > > > > > ------ > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > > > -- > > ==================================== > > E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: > > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html > > http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html > > ==================================== > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > > taking part in market research studies! > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click Here</a> > > > > ------ > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > Vivekananda Centre London > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, > NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/nextcard5 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Dear Kathi., I got this info from " Caitanyacaritamrta Madhyalila, " . and in this it is given that Mayavadi philosophers maintain that the impersonal Brahman effulgence is the cause of the cosmic manifestation. where as Advaitha by Adi ShankaraCharya is a Sampradhayam of vedic philosophy and Advaitha itself is not a Philosophy. sarvam vasudevamayam jagath Prashanth > K Kathirasan ADM NCS <kathirasan > > Namaste Prashanth > > The word Mayavadi is usually used as a derogatory term for Advaita Vedanta. > And the 6 systems I've been introduced to are : Nyaya, Vaisesika, Yoga, > Purva Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), Sankhya and Vedanta (Uttara Mimamsa). It > differs from the ones you've mentioned. May I know from which source did > you get this information? Thanks a million. > > Om Shanti > Kathi > > > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > > Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:05 PM > > Ramakrishna > > Re: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > Dear Shah ., > > > > Thanx very much. As I was going through yesterday I also found that it is > > one of > > the 6 systems of Vedic philosophy. > > > > The 6 systems are > > > > Mimasaka,Samkya, Nyaya,mayavadi,Patanjali, and Vedic > > > > > > sarvam vasudevamayam jagath > > Prashanth > > > > > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > > > > > Dear Prashant G, > > > All I know is that there are two: Uttara Mimamsaka and Poorva Mimamsaka > > > ideologies. Mimamsaka forms one out of six systems of Hindu Thought. > > > c s s > > > ============ > > > Prashant G wrote: > > > > > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology and > > how > > does > > > > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance > > > > Prashanth > > > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > > > > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter at > > > > <a href= " //onelist_announce > > " >Click</a> > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > > > > > -- > > > ==================================== > > > E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: > > > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html > > > http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html > > > ==================================== > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > > > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > > > taking part in market research studies! > > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click Here</a> > > > > > > ------ > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, > > NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/nextcard5 " >Click Here</a> > > > > ------ > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > Vivekananda Centre London > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > taking part in market research studies! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 But is there any power in the shabdas used in mantras? For example, it is said the Gayatri Mantra is the most powerful mantra because the shabdas themselves have powers and create energy field. Naturally, wrong pronounciation could create a negative energy field. R. Dinakaran Chief Sub Editor The Hindu Business Line Kasturi Buildings Anna Salai Chennai - 600 078 INDIA Anurag Goel <anurag wrote: > Depends on the mantraa some r very powerful n a wrong pronunciation of > them can cause havoc in one's life. > > I personally don't think that i recite all the mantraas with all > perfection but still the trust in Pujya Gurudev , love n sacredness > towards Mantra, towards sadhana , n detachment frm the result of Sadhana > does give results. I believe watever u uttered offer it to lord n Pujya > Gurudev. If something is wrong he will take care of it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 1999 Report Share Posted September 9, 1999 Sure there is power in shabdas. It is something like this recitation of mantraa generate some feelings but if one puts these feelings from one's side then ill affect of improper recitation of mantra should be taken care of by these pious feelings n bhaavas frm the reciter . Also nothin is more powerful then love towards Lord. Yes wrong pronunciation will create negative energy but i think if one offers the whole recitation to lord n Guru asks for his forgiveness n guidance in it then Lord n Guru will surely give the desired or correct results. Devotion is all that counts. Even if one recites Mantra correctly but if there r no feelings or Bhaavas then one will gain no benefit frm such Mantra recitation. On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, dynes wrote: > But is there any power in the shabdas used in mantras? For example, it is said the Gayatri Mantra is the most powerful mantra because the shabdas themselves have powers and create energy field. Naturally, wrong pronounciation could create a negative energy field. > > R. Dinakaran > Chief Sub Editor > The Hindu Business Line > Kasturi Buildings > Anna Salai > Chennai - 600 078 > INDIA > > Anurag Goel <anurag wrote: > > Depends on the mantraa some r very powerful n a wrong pronunciation of > > them can cause havoc in one's life. > > > > I personally don't think that i recite all the mantraas with all > > perfection but still the trust in Pujya Gurudev , love n sacredness > > towards Mantra, towards sadhana , n detachment frm the result of Sadhana > > does give results. I believe watever u uttered offer it to lord n Pujya > > Gurudev. If something is wrong he will take care of it. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Namaste Prashanth Thanks for the clarifications. Om Shanti. > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > Thursday, September 09, 1999 8:49 PM > Ramakrishna > RE: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > Prashant G <gprasha > > Dear Kathi., > > I got this info from " Caitanyacaritamrta Madhyalila, " . and in this it is > given > that Mayavadi philosophers maintain that the impersonal Brahman effulgence > is > the cause of the cosmic manifestation. where as Advaitha by Adi > ShankaraCharya > is a Sampradhayam of vedic philosophy and Advaitha itself is not a > Philosophy. > > > sarvam vasudevamayam jagath > Prashanth > > > > K Kathirasan ADM NCS <kathirasan > > > > Namaste Prashanth > > > > The word Mayavadi is usually used as a derogatory term for Advaita > Vedanta. > > And the 6 systems I've been introduced to are : Nyaya, Vaisesika, Yoga, > > Purva Mimamsa (or Mimamsa), Sankhya and Vedanta (Uttara Mimamsa). It > > differs from the ones you've mentioned. May I know from which source > did > > you get this information? Thanks a million. > > > > Om Shanti > > Kathi > > > > > > Prashant G [sMTP:gprasha] > > > Thursday, September 09, 1999 4:05 PM > > > Ramakrishna > > > Re: [ramakrishna] Mimamsaka Philosophy > > > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > > > Dear Shah ., > > > > > > Thanx very much. As I was going through yesterday I also found that it > is > > > one of > > > the 6 systems of Vedic philosophy. > > > > > > The 6 systems are > > > > > > Mimasaka,Samkya, Nyaya,mayavadi,Patanjali, and Vedic > > > > > > > > > sarvam vasudevamayam jagath > > > Prashanth > > > > > > > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > > > > > > > Dear Prashant G, > > > > All I know is that there are two: Uttara Mimamsaka and Poorva > Mimamsaka > > > > ideologies. Mimamsaka forms one out of six systems of Hindu Thought. > > > > c s s > > > > ============ > > > > Prashant G wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Prashant G <gprasha > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone please breifly explain Mimamsaka Philosophers ideology > and > > > how > > > does > > > > > it differ from Vedanta Philosophy. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in Advance > > > > > Prashanth > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > > > ---------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ATTN ONELIST USERS: stay current on the latest activities, > > > > > programs, & features at ONElist by joining our member newsletter > at > > > > > <a href= " //onelist_announce > > > " >Click</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ==================================== > > > > E-magazine on science and spirituality. Visit: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Styx/1704/index.html > > > > http://members.xoom.com/drcsshah/neovedanta/index.html > > > > ==================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > > > > > > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > > > > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > > > > taking part in market research studies! > > > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click > Here</a> > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > > > > > GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, > > > > NO annual fee & rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online > today! > > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/nextcard5 " >Click > Here</a> > > > > > > > ------ > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > > > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > > taking part in market research studies! > > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot1 " >Click Here</a> > > > > ------ > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > > Vivekananda Centre London > > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Show your ONElist SPIRIT! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/tshirt2 " >Click Here</a> > With a new ONElist SHIRT available through our website. > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Hello everyone ., As I have heard that recitation of vedic mantras is of Utmost importance. Because in Sanskrit every word has its definite shape(Akara). For example water in Sanskrit is called jwala, this is because when water is flowing in a complete silence atmosphere the sound it makes is similler to word jwala( some thing like juLu juLu), simillerly every other word in Sanskrit has a definite relationship with its Akara. I have even heard that some old people don't even recite vedic mantras because the vedic verses may sound differently when they recite because of their old age. The language Sanskrit has itself is very much different form other languages, it has been made keeping in mind of pronouncation, we can easily make out this when we pronounce Sanskrit alphabets, Ka Kha Ga Gha n Cha Chha Ja Jha n Ta Tha Da Dha N t th d dh n Pa Pha Bh Bha Ma the letters Ka, Kha, Ga, Gha...emerge from the throat; Cha, Chha, Ja, Jha...are mainly from the palate;Ta, Tha, Da, Dha... originate from the tip of the tongue and Pa, Pha, Ba,Bha and Ma at the meeting of the lips. and even the Omkara which we recite has definite shape, As said in scriptures " In the timeless beginning, Brahman alone was. It was the natureof Supreme Silence. Out of the Supreme Silence emanated the Nada Brahman,the sound aspect and expression of God. That was the Primeval Sound. That was Omkara. " All sounds and words, have their origin in Pranava Sabda. all the sounds that can be produced or uttered by combinations of different letters or any alphabet come under the gamut of the three sounds produced by A, U and M. So the recitation of the Vedic mantras is of Utmost important. But still as Anurag said whatever we uttere offer it to lord n Pujya Gurudev. If something is wrong he will take care of it. Sarvam Vasudevamayam jagath Prashanth > > > On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Dr C S Shah wrote: > > > Dr C S Shah <drcssha > > > > Aarti Sethia wrote: > > <<< It is of the utmost importance that the rituals are done > > exactly as proscribed and the chanting of mantras recited with all the > > specific intonations. By performing them incorrectly, even by one sound > > etc. can damn the participant. It is also different in its view of the > > nature of the world etc. >>> > > > > I FEEL, It is not harmful if Mantras or rituals are not pronounced or > > performed correctly; but desirable beneficial effect (like concentration > > and purification of mind) may be delayed or less from incorrectly > > chanted Mantras or improperly performed Yagna etc. > > c s s > > -- > > > Depends on the mantraa some r very powerful n a wrong pronunciation of > them can cause havoc in one's life. > > I personally don't think that i recite all the mantraas with all > perfection but still the trust in Pujya Gurudev , love n sacredness > towards Mantra, towards sadhana , n detachment frm the result of Sadhana > does give results. I believe watever u uttered offer it to lord n Pujya > Gurudev. If something is wrong he will take care of it. > > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > Earn Cash and Prizes for you Opinions! > How would you like to have a voice in the marketplace and be > rewarded for it? SurveySpot members earn cash and prizes for > taking part in market research studies! > <a href= " http://clickme./ad/surveyspot2 " >Click Here</a> > > ------ > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 1999 Report Share Posted September 10, 1999 Prashant it's great going down to the basics of language. I don't much abt word " Jwala " but that's the approach towards sanskrit as such. Language is nothin but a world shrunk to words. It's another manisfestation of this world. It was great to learn abt Brahma Naad too. On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Prashant G wrote: > Prashant G <gprasha > > Hello everyone ., > > As I have heard that recitation of vedic mantras is of Utmost importance. > Because in Sanskrit every word has its definite shape(Akara). For example water > in Sanskrit is called jwala, this is because when water is flowing in a complete > silence atmosphere the sound it makes is similler to word jwala( some thing like > juLu juLu), simillerly every other word in Sanskrit has a definite relationship > with its Akara. > > I have even heard that some old people don't even recite vedic mantras because > the vedic verses may sound differently when they recite because of their old > age. > > The language Sanskrit has itself is very much different form other languages, it > has been made keeping in mind of pronouncation, we can easily make out this when > we pronounce Sanskrit alphabets, > > Ka Kha Ga Gha n > Cha Chha Ja Jha n > Ta Tha Da Dha N > t th d dh n > Pa Pha Bh Bha Ma > > the letters Ka, Kha, Ga, Gha...emerge from the throat; Cha, Chha, Ja, Jha... are > mainly from the palate;Ta, Tha, Da, Dha... originate from the tip of the tongue > and Pa, Pha, Ba,Bha and Ma at the meeting of the lips. > > and even the Omkara which we recite has definite shape, As said in scriptures > " In the timeless beginning, Brahman alone was. It was the natureof Supreme > Silence. Out of the Supreme Silence emanated the Nada Brahman,the sound aspect > and expression of God. That was the Primeval Sound. That was Omkara. " > > All sounds and words, have their origin in Pranava Sabda. all the sounds > that can be produced or uttered by combinations of different letters or any > alphabet come under the gamut of the three sounds produced by A, U and M. > > So the recitation of the Vedic mantras is of Utmost important. But still as > Anurag said whatever we uttere offer it to lord n Pujya Gurudev. If something is > wrong he will take care of it. > > Sarvam Vasudevamayam jagath > Prashanth > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 Does not the mother respond to the baby's cry, " Ma! " and the father to the cry " Da! " ? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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