Guest guest Posted September 24, 1999 Report Share Posted September 24, 1999 Re: mantra pronunciation discussion, I noticed today in the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna, p. 584, para. h Western edition: " ... Thepatient dies if he tires to cure his fever by taking the decoction of herbs prescirbed by the orthodox native physicians. Therefore he should tke amodern 'fever mixtue'. According to the Vedas none but a brahmin can be liberated. Further, the worship is not accepted by the gods unless the mantras are recited correctly. One must perform sacrifice, worship, and so on, according to scriptural injunction. But where is the time in the Kaliyuga to perform the Vedic rituals? Therefore in the Kaliyuga the path of devotion prescribed by Narad is best... " i.e. cry, weep, with a longing heart; it is enough. edtipple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1999 Report Share Posted September 24, 1999 True none but a Brahmin will be liberated. Brahmin is one who follows such a life style so as to know Brahma. Make god closest to ur heart he will accept watever is offered with love. True it is that the vedic rituals r very detailed n sort of difficult for a worldly man in this era of time. But if Guru is there he drastically cuts down these rituals n still one is able to get all the benefit. May be it's no longer a KaliYug n we are in the transition time. On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, EDTipple wrote: > EDTipple <edtipple > > Re: mantra pronunciation discussion, I noticed today in the Gospel of > Sri Ramakrishna, p. 584, para. h Western edition: " ... Thepatient dies > if he tires to cure his fever by taking the decoction of herbs > prescirbed by the orthodox native physicians. Therefore he should tke > amodern 'fever mixtue'. According to the Vedas none but a brahmin can > be liberated. Further, the worship is not accepted by the gods unless > the mantras are recited correctly. One must perform sacrifice, worship, > and so on, according to scriptural injunction. But where is the time in > the Kaliyuga to perform the Vedic rituals? Therefore in the Kaliyuga > the path of devotion prescribed by Narad is best... " > > i.e. cry, weep, with a longing heart; it is enough. > edtipple > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 1999 Report Share Posted September 24, 1999 In a message dated 99-09-24 16:56:06 EDT, anurag writes: << True none but a Brahmin will be liberated. Brahmin is one who follows such a life style so as to know Brahma. Make god closest to ur heart he will accept watever is offered with love. True it is that the vedic rituals r very detailed n sort of difficult for a worldly man in this era of time. But if Guru is there he drastically cuts down these rituals n still one is able to get all the benefit. May be it's no longer a KaliYug n we are in the transition time. >> Hello All!! I must politely disagree that " ...none but a Brahmin will be liberated... " Swamiji was NOT a Brahmin. Do you believe that Swamiji was not liberated? I am assuming that you are referring to the " priestly caste " Brahmin here. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 Dear Anurag, It sure looks like the Kaliyuga out there to me when I read the morning news or turn on the TV! You say, " True none but a Brahmin will be liberated. Brahmin is one who follows such a life style so as to know Brahma. " Agreed IF your definition of brahmin is one who struggles to know God, no matter what family, society or couuntry he/she was born in. edtipple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 No Sue. I am not referring to " priestly caste " Brahmin here. On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 FREESUE wrote: > FREESUE > > In a message dated 99-09-24 16:56:06 EDT, anurag writes: > > << > True none but a Brahmin will be liberated. Brahmin is one who follows such > a life style so as to know Brahma. Make god closest to ur heart he will > accept watever is offered with love. True it is that the vedic rituals r > very detailed n sort of difficult for a worldly man in this era of time. > But if Guru is there he drastically cuts down these rituals n still one > is able to get all the benefit. May be it's no longer a KaliYug n we are > in the transition time. >> > > Hello All!! > > I must politely disagree that " ...none but a Brahmin will be liberated... " > Swamiji was NOT a Brahmin. Do you believe that Swamiji was not liberated? I > am assuming that you are referring to the " priestly caste " Brahmin here. > > Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 N i look at the rise of spirituality..... > EDTipple <edtipple > > Dear Anurag, > > It sure looks like the Kaliyuga out there to me when I read the morning > news or turn on the TV! > > You say, " True none but a Brahmin will be liberated. Brahmin is one who > follows such a life style so as to know Brahma. " Agreed IF your > definition of brahmin is one who struggles to know God, no matter what > family, society or couuntry he/she was born in. > edtipple > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 Yes, edith we both r in agreement abt word Brahmin. > > Dear Anurag, > > It sure looks like the Kaliyuga out there to me when I read the morning > news or turn on the TV! > > You say, " True none but a Brahmin will be liberated. Brahmin is one who > follows such a life style so as to know Brahma. " Agreed IF your > definition of brahmin is one who struggles to know God, no matter what > family, society or couuntry he/she was born in. > edtipple > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 1999 Report Share Posted September 28, 1999 about the mantra pronounciation there is a very good article in Bhakthi mailing list, you can refer to the site http://www2.be.com/~mani/bhakti/archives/sep98/0078.html http://www2.be.com/~mani/bhakti/archives/sep98/0079.html Sarvam vasudevamayam jagath Prashanth > > EDTipple <edtipple > > Re: mantra pronunciation discussion, I noticed today in the Gospel of > Sri Ramakrishna, p. 584, para. h Western edition: " ... Thepatient dies > if he tires to cure his fever by taking the decoction of herbs > prescirbed by the orthodox native physicians. Therefore he should tke > amodern 'fever mixtue'. According to the Vedas none but a brahmin can > be liberated. Further, the worship is not accepted by the gods unless > the mantras are recited correctly. One must perform sacrifice, worship, > and so on, according to scriptural injunction. But where is the time in > the Kaliyuga to perform the Vedic rituals? Therefore in the Kaliyuga > the path of devotion prescribed by Narad is best... " > > i.e. cry, weep, with a longing heart; it is enough. > edtipple > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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