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Hello Sudhakar

 

If a void can be perceived then who perceives it? The perceiver is the self

and not the void.

 

Swami

 

 

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> Dear Everybody

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> Could somebody tell me how one would logically prove that void is not

> I? The commentary is silent on this. Can somebody help me out on this

> please? I am sorry because this question is purely academic in nature

> and has nothing to do with my belief.

>

> love

>

> Sunil

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> Commentary:

>

> From the atheism of the cArvAkas down to the Sunya theory of

>Buddhism,

> all the opinions are delusions. These delusions will vanish once the

> intuitive perception of the Transcendental Absolute dawns on us. The

> body cannot be the Self, because it is visible, it is inert, it has

> colour and form, it has parts, it is made up of the five elements of

> matter. Also, if body were the Self, even when it is sleeping, even

> when it is in coma, in fact, even after death, it should be able to

> recognize itself as 'I'. The senses cannot be the Self, because,

>the

> blind, the deaf, the lame all can recognize the 'I' in them. The

>vital

> breath prANa cannot be the Self because when the body is sleeping,

>the

> prANa is still working, but it is not sentient as is clear from the

> fact that it does not recognize the purse being pick-pocketed from

>its

> body. The intellect cannot be the Self because it exists neither

> before nor after life in the body and even while it exists in the

>body

> it is so full of change that you can never call it the immutable!

>

> Commentary and translation by Prof V Krishnamurthy

>

>

>

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>Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

>Vivekananda Centre London

>http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/

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Dear Sunil

 

I will request Prof Krishnamurti to develop this theme as it was his

contribution that you are referring to.

 

The answer should be interesting - I await to see how this develops.

 

jay

 

 

 

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14 October 1999 13:53

[ramakrishna] Dakshinamurthy Strotram

 

 

><Sunil_Sudhakar

>

>

>

>

> Dear Everybody

>

> Could somebody tell me how one would logically prove that void is not

> I? The commentary is silent on this. Can somebody help me out on this

> please? I am sorry because this question is purely academic in nature

> and has nothing to do with my belief.

>

> love

>

> Sunil

>

> ----------------------------Reply Header-------------------------

> Commentary:

>

> From the atheism of the cArvAkas down to the Sunya theory of Buddhism,

> all the opinions are delusions. These delusions will vanish once the

> intuitive perception of the Transcendental Absolute dawns on us. The

> body cannot be the Self, because it is visible, it is inert, it has

> colour and form, it has parts, it is made up of the five elements of

> matter. Also, if body were the Self, even when it is sleeping, even

> when it is in coma, in fact, even after death, it should be able to

> recognize itself as 'I'. The senses cannot be the Self, because, the

> blind, the deaf, the lame all can recognize the 'I' in them. The vital

> breath prANa cannot be the Self because when the body is sleeping, the

> prANa is still working, but it is not sentient as is clear from the

> fact that it does not recognize the purse being pick-pocketed from its

> body. The intellect cannot be the Self because it exists neither

> before nor after life in the body and even while it exists in the body

> it is so full of change that you can never call it the immutable!

>

> Commentary and translation by Prof V Krishnamurthy

>

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Wat is void n wat is context it is being referred to

 

Who r carvakas n wat is sunya theroy of buddhism

 

>

> I will request Prof Krishnamurti to develop this theme as it was his

> contribution that you are referring to.

>

> The answer should be interesting - I await to see how this develops.

>

> jay

 

> >

> > Dear Everybody

> >

> > Could somebody tell me how one would logically prove that void is not

> > I? The commentary is silent on this. Can somebody help me out on this

> > please? I am sorry because this question is purely academic in nature

> > and has nothing to do with my belief.

> >

> > love

> >

> > Sunil

> >

> > ----------------------------Reply Header-------------------------

> > Commentary:

> >

> > From the atheism of the cArvAkas down to the Sunya theory of Buddhism,

> > all the opinions are delusions. These delusions will vanish once the

> > intuitive perception of the Transcendental Absolute dawns on us. The

> > body cannot be the Self, because it is visible, it is inert, it has

> > colour and form, it has parts, it is made up of the five elements of

> > matter. Also, if body were the Self, even when it is sleeping, even

> > when it is in coma, in fact, even after death, it should be able to

> > recognize itself as 'I'. The senses cannot be the Self, because, the

> > blind, the deaf, the lame all can recognize the 'I' in them. The vital

> > breath prANa cannot be the Self because when the body is sleeping, the

> > prANa is still working, but it is not sentient as is clear from the

> > fact that it does not recognize the purse being pick-pocketed from its

> > body. The intellect cannot be the Self because it exists neither

> > before nor after life in the body and even while it exists in the body

> > it is so full of change that you can never call it the immutable!

> >

> > Commentary and translation by Prof V Krishnamurthy

> >

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Dear Everybody

 

Could somebody tell me how one would logically prove that void is not

I? The commentary is silent on this. Can somebody help me out on this

please? I am sorry because this question is purely academic in nature

and has nothing to do with my belief.

 

love

 

Sunil

 

----------------------------Reply Header-------------------------

Commentary:

 

From the atheism of the cArvAkas down to the Sunya theory of Buddhism,

all the opinions are delusions. These delusions will vanish once the

intuitive perception of the Transcendental Absolute dawns on us. The

body cannot be the Self, because it is visible, it is inert, it has

colour and form, it has parts, it is made up of the five elements of

matter. Also, if body were the Self, even when it is sleeping, even

when it is in coma, in fact, even after death, it should be able to

recognize itself as 'I'. The senses cannot be the Self, because, the

blind, the deaf, the lame all can recognize the 'I' in them. The vital

breath prANa cannot be the Self because when the body is sleeping, the

prANa is still working, but it is not sentient as is clear from the

fact that it does not recognize the purse being pick-pocketed from its

body. The intellect cannot be the Self because it exists neither

before nor after life in the body and even while it exists in the body

it is so full of change that you can never call it the immutable!

 

Commentary and translation by Prof V Krishnamurthy

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Namaste Sunil-ji

 

We know that we are a conscious being. If we are not, then this discussion

cannot take place. But something void cannot be conscious, therefore it

contradicts our very nature. Therefore, the 'I' cannot be the Void. It has

to be something Conscious. The I is also called Sat-Chit-Ananda rupa. The

Chit implies that it is aware or knowledgable.

 

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

Om Shanti

Kathi

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> Sunil_Sudhakar [sMTP:Sunil_Sudhakar]

> Friday, October 15, 1999 6:00 AM

> Ramakrishna

> [ramakrishna] Dakshinamurthy Strotram

>

> <Sunil_Sudhakar

>

>

>

>

> Dear Everybody

>

> Could somebody tell me how one would logically prove that void is not

> I? The commentary is silent on this. Can somebody help me out on this

> please? I am sorry because this question is purely academic in nature

> and has nothing to do with my belief.

>

> love

>

> Sunil

>

> ----------------------------Reply Header-------------------------

> Commentary:

>

> From the atheism of the cArvAkas down to the Sunya theory of

> Buddhism,

> all the opinions are delusions. These delusions will vanish once the

> intuitive perception of the Transcendental Absolute dawns on us. The

> body cannot be the Self, because it is visible, it is inert, it has

> colour and form, it has parts, it is made up of the five elements of

> matter. Also, if body were the Self, even when it is sleeping, even

> when it is in coma, in fact, even after death, it should be able to

> recognize itself as 'I'. The senses cannot be the Self, because,

> the

> blind, the deaf, the lame all can recognize the 'I' in them. The

> vital

> breath prANa cannot be the Self because when the body is sleeping,

> the

> prANa is still working, but it is not sentient as is clear from the

> fact that it does not recognize the purse being pick-pocketed from

> its

> body. The intellect cannot be the Self because it exists neither

> before nor after life in the body and even while it exists in the

> body

> it is so full of change that you can never call it the immutable!

>

> Commentary and translation by Prof V Krishnamurthy

>

> > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

> Vivekananda Centre London

> http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/

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