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The discussions are not fruitless...it helps to educate people like us who

are not in touch with the religious rituals.

 

I am not much of a religious fanatic but whatever little I know of the

Master Ramakrishna he also stressed how a sansari can attain God. That, can

be done by various ways and one of them is being in pious and good company.

 

Rajiv Chatterjee

 

 

> " Guha " <guha

>Ramakrishna

><Ramakrishna >

>[ramakrishna] Brain stuff

>Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:09:46 +0530

>

>One thing that intrigues me is why do so many members on this list engage

>in

>fruitless intellectual discussion. Obviously, they find it intellectually

>stimulating. But should they be doing this?

>If the quest is for God, Sri Ramakrishna has clearly given us the

>prescription: Bhakti (devotion) is the only way in this Kali yuga. Nothing

>is possible without His grace. So what we should be doing is pray for His

>grace, and beg for faith, belief, and dispassion towards worldly things.

>And

>simultaneously doing sincere japa and meditation.

>If there is one task we must undertake with vigour it is spreading the

>message of Sri Ramakrishna so that more and more people everywhere may

>experience the joy of knowing God and his creation. Does this make your

>hearts throb?

>

>

>

>------

>Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

>Vivekananda Centre London

>http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/

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Guhaji when we r all set to one to one with lord then it's seems so

foolish to think this is good this is bad. i am this i am that.

One says to oneself stop ur foolish behaviour n dissolve urself n enjoy

this bliss.

 

We surrender to someone when we love him/her. When we surrender to lord

then we do so in love. one cuddles up at his feet just like a little

child.

 

before lord intellectuallity doesn't work wat he wants is just love.

 

But i think in all other things we can't do away with intellectuality.

 

 

On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Guha wrote:

 

> " Guha " <guha

>

> One thing that intrigues me is why do so many members on this list engage in

> fruitless intellectual discussion. Obviously, they find it intellectually

> stimulating. But should they be doing this?

> If the quest is for God, Sri Ramakrishna has clearly given us the

> prescription: Bhakti (devotion) is the only way in this Kali yuga. Nothing

> is possible without His grace. So what we should be doing is pray for His

> grace, and beg for faith, belief, and dispassion towards worldly things. And

> simultaneously doing sincere japa and meditation.

> If there is one task we must undertake with vigour it is spreading the

> message of Sri Ramakrishna so that more and more people everywhere may

> experience the joy of knowing God and his creation. Does this make your

> hearts throb?

>

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I think we are forgetting that Ramakrishna himself encouraged logical

discussions and advised us to practise discrimination. What else than

intellect should help us discriminate and realise God through negation

('neti, neti')? Everything we have (including intellect) is a gift of God

and we have the onus on us to use it to perform our duties and to reach God.

And to know what our duties are we again need intellect.

 

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Anurag Goel <anurag

<Ramakrishna >

Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:48 PM

Re: [ramakrishna] Brain stuff

 

 

> Anurag Goel <anurag

>

>

> Guhaji when we r all set to one to one with lord then it's seems so

> foolish to think this is good this is bad. i am this i am that.

> One says to oneself stop ur foolish behaviour n dissolve urself n enjoy

> this bliss.

>

> We surrender to someone when we love him/her. When we surrender to lord

> then we do so in love. one cuddles up at his feet just like a little

> child.

>

> before lord intellectuallity doesn't work wat he wants is just love.

>

> But i think in all other things we can't do away with intellectuality.

>

>

> On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Guha wrote:

>

> > " Guha " <guha

> >

> > One thing that intrigues me is why do so many members on this list

engage in

> > fruitless intellectual discussion. Obviously, they find it

intellectually

> > stimulating. But should they be doing this?

> > If the quest is for God, Sri Ramakrishna has clearly given us the

> > prescription: Bhakti (devotion) is the only way in this Kali yuga.

Nothing

> > is possible without His grace. So what we should be doing is pray for

His

> > grace, and beg for faith, belief, and dispassion towards worldly things.

And

> > simultaneously doing sincere japa and meditation.

> > If there is one task we must undertake with vigour it is spreading the

> > message of Sri Ramakrishna so that more and more people everywhere may

> > experience the joy of knowing God and his creation. Does this make your

> > hearts throb?

> >

>

> > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

> Vivekananda Centre London

> http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/

>

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