Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 Certainly the purpose of mundane religion (dharma) is to advance one's sense gratification (kama) and economic development (artha), and when one finds that this mentality is unsatisfying, one endeavors for liberation (moksa). This is very common. However, there are so many instances in history where we can see persons who's understanding and practice of religion is greater than that. These people practice religion for the sake of pleasing God, without desiring artha-kama-moksa, and may even refuse boons when offered (example: Prahlad Maharaj). There are also those who practice mundane religion for economic development, etc., and still become purified so that they no longer desire any type of material boon (example: Druva Maharaj). They continue to practice religion without any desire, even for liberation, simply to please God. I have heard that this fifth goal of life, love of God (prema), begins after one has already reached liberation (examples: the four Kumaras). So my point is that while it is very difficult to forget one's desire for satisfaction in the bodily concept of life, one can continue to practice religion beyond this conception, and that is desired very much. The idea of giving up religious principles such as cleanliness, mercy, truthfulness, and austerity, simply because it does not appear to further one's sense gratification seems very wrong to me. We have already had a little discussion of the relationship of the cow as a mother of people. If one could quietly kill (and maybe even eat!) one's own elderly mother, it may appear (to an obviously deranged person) to benefit one in terms of sense gratification and economic development, and one may even feel some liberation from the difficulties of caring for her, but would this type of activity be beneficial in the long run? Vedic scriptures list 7 mothers: the mother who gave birth, the wife of a brahmana, the wife of the guru, the earth, a cow, a nurse, and the queen. There are also 7 fathers mentioned: the biological father, the bull, the teacher, the king, the brahmana, the guru, and the Supreme Lord. How can we disrespect any of our mothers or fathers, what to speak of kill out of desire for sense gratification, and expect to prosper? Ultimately the purpose of religion is to benefit both individuals and societies in the long run. My first degree in school was in environmental studies, and after my first 2.5 years of study, though having been raised mainly on beef, I realized that the best thing I could do for the environment would be to become a vegetarian. I could go into so many aspects of how raising livestock for slaughter is harmful to the environment, and may even be the root cause of all of our environmental concerns, but I think this may be a bit off topic. But even in the Ten Commandments it is said, " Thou shall not kill " (though it has been changed in many churches recently to " You shall not murder " ). God is not ignorant of the long term effects of our actions, and so He has given us recommendations so that our lives can be truly joyful. Real religion is above the bodily conception of life, and is joyfully practiced by liberated persons. jai govinda On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:22:31 -0000 " Vinaire Agarwala " <vinaire writes: > " Vinaire Agarwala " <vinaire > > As I understand, the purpose of religion is to bring about the > highest possible survival. It equips you to play the game of life in > the most causative manner ensuring the maximum survival for all. By > SURVIVAL, I mean the continuation of beingness one chooses to have in > this game of life. Economics is a vital part of survival. And the > core value of economy is proper exchange. > > Looking at the COWS in this context, we can understand how important > COW was to the survival of the ancient Hindu community that had > turned agrarian and vegetarian. In exchange COW was well taken care > of. This was made sure by incorporating it in the religious lorel. > > In today's India that economic importance of the cow in relation to > the survival has reduced considerably. But the morality in relation > to the cows continues as part of the religious lore. Hence the > apparent contradiction in my view. > ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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