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I wish that this reference from Avadhuta Gita could be translated using the

modern scientific terminology. I can see that that the reference to " sound "

really means VIBRATION. Similarly, the references to " air, " " fire, " " water, " and

" earth " do not mean air, water, fire, and earth as we interpret them today.

 

If this reference can be translated properly, then, pobably, we may become aware

of some wonderful ideas on a scientific basis.

 

 

 

 

> Dharam Dev Singh <DharamDevSpace is the material element which permits sound.

> Air give rise to touch.

> Fire brings sight.

> Water gives taste.

> Earth brings smell.

>

etc.

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The verses I quoted were from the Bhagavat Purana, not the Avadhuta

Gita. I don't know anything about the Avadhuta Gita except what I've

seen in a few verses.

 

In the Bhagavad-gita, Krishna tells Arjuna that there are many ways of

classifying the elements of material nature, according to different ways

of seeing things. Some may say there are 24 elements (5 knowledge

gathering senses, 5 working senses, 5 types of sense objects, 5 gross

material elements, 3 subtle material elements, and Paramatma,) while

others may group the knowledge gathering senses with the sense objects,

or may include the demigods presiding over the different senses.

 

Since the quote was from the Bhagavatam, it seems to me to refer to

an authority on the Bhagavatam. Among scholars of the 20th century, I

would regard Om Visnu-pada Paramahamsa Parivrajakacarya Astottarasata Sri

Srimad His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaj as the

leading scholar of the Bhagavatam. He said that:

earth = solid matter

water = liquid matter

fire = radiant energy

air = gaseous matter

ether = space

 

I do not have an original reference for his statements on this, so I

can't go into any detail. I think his samadhi was in the earlier part of

the 20th century, so I doubt he went very deep into the chemistry or

physics of it. Also, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Maharaj did not

have much concern for the details of material nature, being absorbed in

the pastimes of Sri Sri Radha-Krsna and Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai. The

explanation given by Swami Yogeshananda seems to agree with His Diving

Grace's explanation and go into further detail.

 

 

 

On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:17:41 -0000 " Vinaire Agarwala " <vinaire

writes:

> " Vinaire Agarwala " <vinaire

>

> I wish that this reference from Avadhuta Gita could be translated

> using the

> modern scientific terminology. I can see that that the reference to

> " sound "

> really means VIBRATION. Similarly, the references to " air, " " fire, "

> " water, " and

> " earth " do not mean air, water, fire, and earth as we interpret them

> today.

>

> If this reference can be translated properly, then, pobably, we may

> become aware

> of some wonderful ideas on a scientific basis.

>

>

>

>

> > Dharam Dev Singh <DharamDev

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Space is the material element which permits sound.

> > Air give rise to touch.

> > Fire brings sight.

> > Water gives taste.

> > Earth brings smell.

> >

> etc.

>

>

>

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