AVADHUTA GITA

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I do not understand why death is necessary for the yogi to merge with

his supreme Self. Sri Krishna was one with his supreme Self while in

a live body.

 

The destruction of the " jar " is akin to the destruction of the

attachement to the body and the mind, and not necessarily akin to the

destruction of the body.

 

Ramakrishna , EDTipple <edtipple@c...> wrote:

> Chapter 2, Verse 25

>

> Swami Chetanananda

> As the jar-space becomes one with the cosmic space on the

destruction of

> the jar, so the yogi, after death, merges into his real nature --

the

> Supreme Self.

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Because they are related, 3 verses -- 26, 27 and 28 -- of Chapter 2 are

given together.

Chapter 2

 

Swami Chetanananda:

 

26. It has been said about the followers of action that whatever state

they desire at the time of death, they attain. But this has not been

said about the followers of yoga.

 

27. The destiny of the followers of action can be decribed by the organ

of speech; but the goal of the yogis is inexpressible, because it is not

an object to be acquired.

 

28. Knowing this, one should not imagine any particular path for the

yogis. They give up desire and doubt, and therefore their perfection

takes place spontaneously.

 

Swami Ashokananda:

 

26. It has been said that the destiny of those devoted to action is the

same as their thought at the end, but it has not been said that the

destiny of those established in yoga is the same as their thought at the

end.

Note: End - the dying moment. The belief in India, clearly expressed in

the Bhagavad Gita, is that the last thought in the mind of the dying

person indicates the nature of his future existence. This is not true,

however, of one who has attained to the knowledge of the Self.

 

27. One may express the destiny of those devoted to action with the

organ of speech, but the destiny of the yogis can never be expressed,

because it is transcendental.

 

28. Knowing this, one never says that the yogis have any particular

path. For them it is the giving up of all duality. The supreme

attainment comes of itself.

Note: Particular, etc. - Departing souls reach their destined worlds

following either itr-yana, the path of the fathers, or deva-yana, the

path of the gods. The yogi, after death, does not travel along any

path; having already attained the Highest, which has nothing to do with

any particular place or time, he has no world to reach.

Supreme, etc - The supreme Truth which the yogi attains after

transcending all duality is ever present, eternal, and absolute, so

cannot be spoken of in terms of relative existence or relative truth.

When the sense of duality is destroyed, this Truth at once reveals

itself, even as the sun is seen shining when clouds disperse.

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START, CHANGE, and STOP define a Cycle of Action. A cycle that has

been started must be completed before one can be free from it. A

person, who is involved in action (as most of us are) has many cycles

of actions to complete.

 

The cycle that a person is involved in at the time of his death is

the cycle he has the most attention on. Therefore, he would continue

with that cycle in his next life. Death, itself, does not complete

any cycle of action, except for the cycles connected with that body.

Other incomplete cycles are carried forward as Samskaras in the mind

that the person carries with him after death.