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REgarding Garry's question,

(This may seem a stupid question but I am trying to find a

answer to

> a difficult question. While at university I fell in love with a

Hindu. We

> both got involved and would like to take it further but because of

her

> family she will not as she does not want to bring shame on her

family. Is

> there anyway that I could convert so that it would not bring shame

on her

> family so that I can save this relationship?

>

> garry

>

> ======================

Please inform him that Arya Samaj conducts Havans and Puja for those who wish

to embrace Hinduism.

Mohan

 

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There are 5 messages in this issue.

 

Topics in today's digest:

 

1. VML-3/28/00

ananta <sarada

2. Re: Unusual question

" Vinaire " <vinaire

3. Re: Digest Number 394

Gopinath Chattopadhyay <g.chattopadhyay

4. RE: Unusual question

K Kathirasan ADM NCS <kathirasan

5. Media

" Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda

 

 

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Message: 1

Tue, 28 Mar 2000 05:51:40 -0500

ananta <sarada

VML-3/28/00

 

Then there is the desire to be happy. We run after everything to make

ourselves happy; we pursue our mad career in the external world of

senses. If you ask the young man with whom life is successful, he

will declare that it is real; and he really thinks so. Perhaps, when

the same man grows old and finds fortune ever eluding him, he will

then declare that it is fate. He finds at last that his desires

cannot be fulfilled. Wherever he goes, there is an adamantine wall

beyond which he cannot pass. Every sense-activity results in a

reaction. Everything is evanescent. Enjoyment, misery, luxury,

wealth, power, and poverty, even life itself, are all evanescent.

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Today we continue Swamiji's lecture called:

 

The Real Nature of Man.

(Delivered in London)

 

This is a part of a daily study of the lectures and writings of Swami

Vivekananda. All lectures are sent out in sequenced form, as he spoke

them.

 

Please tell a friend about this Vivekananda Mailing list and study group.

To or send a message to sarada.

 

 

 

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Message: 2

Tue, 28 Mar 2000 12:22:05 -0000

" Vinaire " <vinaire

Re: Unusual question

 

There is no conversion in Hinduism -- only enlightenment. And by the

time you get enlightened you might be laughing at this " motivation. "

 

 

Ramakrishna , " Vivekananda Centre "

<vivekananda@b...> wrote:

> Dear List members

>

> We sometimes get very unusual messages like this one. Any

suggestions?

>

> jay.....

>

> =======original message============

>

> Hi

> This may seem a stupid question but I am trying to find a

answer to

> a difficult question. While at university I fell in love with a

Hindu. We

> both got involved and would like to take it further but because of

her

> family she will not as she does not want to bring shame on her

family. Is

> there anyway that I could convert so that it would not bring shame

on her

> family so that I can save this relationship?

>

> garry

>

> ======================

 

 

 

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Message: 3

Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:01:50 +1000

Gopinath Chattopadhyay <g.chattopadhyay

Re: Digest Number 394

 

>Dear Jay

Could you please send this reply to Garry. Last Sat. day we were invited to

a reception party of the daughter of the President of Sri Ramakrishna

vedanta Society of Queensland. The bride is from Tamil Hindu family and the

Groom is from Christian Australian family. They did not convert any one.

First the marriage was in the church and the following week in Hindu way.

Ramakrishna practiced all the major religions and Vivekananda told that any

religious person needs to practice his or her own religion with devotion.

We have another Hindu devotee whose wife is Christian Anglo-Indian. There

is another Punjabi family who accepted Christianity in 1974 and the last

three years they are actively involved in Ramakrishna Vedanta Society of

Queensland. We have a Muslim family from Bangladesh who participate in our

monthly gatherings and sing songs of Sri Ramakrishna. All the people I know

had genuine love and had to go through tests to convince their families.

They had to wait for few years to prove that their love is genuine. It is

the responsibility of both of you to be dedicated and determined and go

through the tests set by both the families. Both of you need to read Gospel

of Shri Ramakrishna and writings of Swami Vivekananda to get strength for

achieving your goal.

With best wishes

Dr. Gopinath Chattopadhyay

Sri Ramakrishna Vedanta Society of Queensland

>

>Hi

> This may seem a stupid question but I am trying to find a answer to

>a difficult question. While at university I fell in love with a Hindu. We

>both got involved and would like to take it further but because of her

>family she will not as she does not want to bring shame on her family. Is

>there anyway that I could convert so that it would not bring shame on her

>family so that I can save this relationship?

>

>garry

 

 

 

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Message: 4

Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:51:11 +0800

K Kathirasan ADM NCS <kathirasan

RE: Unusual question

 

Namaste

 

Here's the usual answer:

 

Becoming a Hindu is to know your Self. Therefore, Self-Knowledge is the

goal of Hinduism. There is no need to convert because conversion will not

solve the problem. Just an example: If you are uncomfortable wearing a

garment of a non-Hindu then changing the garment of Hindu is not the

solution. AFter all they are both garments. Therefore, the self which dons

the garments should be understood and not the garments. The Self is beyond

creed, caste and gender. After understanding the nature of the Self every

garment will appear meaningful and worthy to you. But not before!

 

And here's the unUsual answer:

 

Visit this website: http://www.himalayanacademy.com/basics/conversion/ and

get converted. :-)

 

>

> Vivekananda Centre [sMTP:vivekananda]

> Tuesday, March 28, 2000 4:33 PM

> list

> [ramakrishna] Unusual question

>

> " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda

>

> Dear List members

>

> We sometimes get very unusual messages like this one. Any suggestions?

>

> jay.....

>

> =======original message============

>

> Hi

> This may seem a stupid question but I am trying to find a answer

> to

> a difficult question. While at university I fell in love with a Hindu. We

> both got involved and would like to take it further but because of her

> family she will not as she does not want to bring shame on her family. Is

> there anyway that I could convert so that it would not bring shame on her

> family so that I can save this relationship?

>

> garry

>

> ======================

>

>

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Message: 5

Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:36:24 +0100

" Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda

Media

 

Dear List members

 

Sharing some ideas with you.

Yesterday at our London Interfaith meeting we were approached by a 'Theatre

company' exploring the possibility of using spirituality as a theme for

future production.

 

It is interesting to observe how in a society strongly driven by hedonistic

pursuits,

spirituality does show up in this manner. Though I suspect this may be

purely to explore an untapped niche market. At some stage people do get

indigestion from the standard themes being portrayed in the media and would

look for relief in spiritual themes. (Though this may be a temporary phase).

 

We may find a Hollywood film producer turning his attention to themes of

spirituality.

It would be grand to see films produced on the lives of some of the recent

spiritual personalities like 'Sri Ramakrishna or Ramana'. The earlier film

'Gandhi' produced by Attenborough came out quite well.

 

jay

 

 

 

 

 

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