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Dear Sesi

 

There was problem with onelist/egroup over the weekend. I could not access

or moderate any messages on Saturday and Sunday.

 

If you still do not get any messages in the next one or two days, I would

suggest that you register with someone like hotmail and obtain another email

address which we can use.

 

I think the problem of not getting mail on Saturday and Sunday was due to

major work being carried out by the egroup team.

 

regards

jay

 

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sesi rekha palle <sesi72

<Ramakrishna >

04 April 2000 16:31

[ramakrishna] (unknown)

 

 

>

> Dear Jay

>

>

> I am shashi. I think you remember me complaining about not recieving

> mails from one-list. The problem started again . Again form past 3 days

i

> am not recieving any messages from onelist. I wrote to onelist also.

They

> told i still am a member of onelist. I request you to please check why i

am

> not recieving messages often. I am very sorry for the trouble i am giving

> to you.

> Thank you

> shashi.

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Namaskar Swami Yogeshanandaji

 

I posted " Ellam Ondre " ( " All is One " ) in August 1999. It is an advaitic text

recommended by Sri Ramana Maharshi as shown from the text below.

 

 

On another occasion, when I asked Bhagavan to select some reading material

for me, he gave me a short-list of six books: Kaivalya Navanitam, Ribhu

Gita, Ashtavakra Gita, Ellam Ondre, Swarupa Saram and Yoga Vasishtam.

 

He laid particular stress on Ellam Ondre, telling me, " If you want moksha

write, read and practise the instructions in Ellam Ondre. "

 

-From " Living by the Words of Bhagavan "

 

 

The book has six chapters. I sent six mails, each with one chapter and can

be found in the August 1999 archives of the ranakrishna list. However, I am

not, as of now, aware of the author or the date, though I have a vague

recollection that it was around the 6th century AD.

 

Swami

 

 

Swami

 

 

>Swami Yogeshananda <yogeshananda

>Ramakrishna

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>Months ago some excerpts appeared in the correspondence from a work

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>Can someone tell me just what the scripture is, and if known, its

>author/date?

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Namaste Padmanabanji

 

To know one's self to be God is the teaching of Vedanta. And to understand

the great Vedanta philosophy requires effort, time and patience. It is not

easy to convince anyone in a single day about this ultimate truth. Neither

am I assuming that you are not knowing the truth. To have a better

understanding of the truth that you are God, I suggest you pick up the 1st

volume of Swami Vivekananda's complete works and read those lectures

delivered by him. I am sure you will be able to appreciate this truth

intellectually the least after reading his works. Because the questions you

have asked have already been answered in many of his talks.

 

And If I happen to be 'preaching to the converted', I am terribly sorry my

dear brother. Best regards.

 

Om Shanti

Kathi

 

 

>

> padmanaban balaraman [sMTP:padmanaban_bala]

> Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:37 AM

> ramakrishna

> [ramakrishna] (unknown)

>

> This is to reference a mail which was send by

> subru

>

>

> hi,

> i am thankful to you that u had told me that i am god.

> If that is the case, then why do people go for temple for

> worship of an idol if he himself is god. One more thing i want to share

> with you is

>

> " I came to know when i was browsing for informations on

> Swamy vivekananda, and there it was said that in the final stage of

> meditation all will come union to god so what does it mean, if i am god

> then what does it mean that i will be very close to god.

>

> Please tell detailed.

>

> As far as vivekananda, he himself agree with the existance of god only

> after Ramamkrishna touched his body

> and he became unconsious of the material world and really

> felt the existance of god in samadhi.

>

> Then what u say must be wrong. I am not clear yet

>

>

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> http://www.vivekananda.co.uk

>

>

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Padam

Aahaaaa!! 8 months and no God realisation. Well even ordinary graduation in

business, science and engineering takes 12 years of schooling and 4 to 5

years of tertiary education. Here we are trying to understand the knowledge

supreme and as you will realise 8 months is too short a period. People have

spent entire life and even life after life and still could not know the

supreme being. Of course if one is already at an advanced stage then one

can realise God in much lesser time. Take the case of Dynaneshwar he

realised God when he was just a teenager and wrote Dynaneswari at the age of

13.

If you are interested in the exact practice that you should follow, I would

suggest that you read Chapter 6 of the Gita (Dhyana Yoga). Hope this helps.

 

Regards

 

Yours sincerely

Milind Sathye

Department of Finance and Banking

University of Southern Queensland

Toowoomba, Queensland 4350

Australia

Phone 61 +7 + 4631 5509

Fax 61+ 7 + 4631 2625

web page: http://www.usq.edu.au/users/sathye

 

 

 

 

padmanaban balaraman [padmanaban_bala]

Monday, 16 April 2001 20:19

Ramakrishna

[ramakrishna] (unknown)

 

 

okay,

I understand the essence of realisation of god.

I do want to see god through my inner awakenings, to do so please guide me

to achieve it.I have been trying for the past eight months but i could not

able to realise him. please tell me in detail about this how to proceed

further.

 

with regards

B.Padmanaban

 

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Vivekananda Centre London

http://www.vivekananda.co.uk

 

 

[Guest guest]

hi seetha,

the souls are all present in a place caslled parandham

and they descent one by one...when theri role comes.

regards

satya

--- Seetha K <seetha wrote:

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Hi all,<BR>

<BR>

I have been a part of this group for the last few

days. My mind is full of numerous doubts. I will be

glad if anyone can help in my understanding of things

better.<BR>

First of all, if our current condition is the result

of the past and our future that of the present, where

did we start from?<BR>

If death is just the soul changing clothes, then does

it mean that the total number of souls a constant?Then

how would one explain the increasing human

population?The rate of death is decreasing and the

rate of birth increasing..so where do these souls come

from?<BR>

I am confused. It may sound silly, as it did to me

when I re read the mail after typing, please excuse my

ignorance..:-)<BR>

<BR>

Also, I would like to read the scriptures and

understand them(the vedas). I know it is not a simple

task, but I think I need to start somewhere. Where can

I get to learn it. And if sanskrit is a prerequisite,

then where can I learn sanskrit?<BR>

<BR>

May God bless all,<BR>

Seetha<BR>

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Hi Seetha

 

A devotee/disciple of Vivekananda Swami must read :

 

1. Chicago Addresses

2. Lectures from Colombo to Almora

3. The life history of the Divine Trio (Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Holy

Mother Sarada Devi, and Vivekananda Swami)

 

These works will not only answer most your questions but are actually a

prerequiste to get a glimpse of what Vedanta is all about.

 

Kind Regards

 

Mahesh

 

 

 

 

Seetha K [seetha]

Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:17 AM

ramakrishna

[ramakrishna] (unknown)

 

 

Hi all,

 

I have been a part of this group for the last few days. My mind is full of

numerous doubts. I will be glad if anyone can help in my understanding of

things better.

First of all, if our current condition is the result of the past and our

future that of the present, where did we start from?

If death is just the soul changing clothes, then does it mean that the total

number of souls a constant?Then how would one explain the increasing human

population?The rate of death is decreasing and the rate of birth

increasing..so where do these souls come from?

I am confused. It may sound silly, as it did to me when I re read the mail

after typing, please excuse my ignorance..:-)

 

Also, I would like to read the scriptures and understand them(the vedas). I

know it is not a simple task, but I think I need to start somewhere. Where

can I get to learn it. And if sanskrit is a prerequisite, then where can I

learn sanskrit?

 

May God bless all,

Seetha

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http://www.vivekananda.co.uk

 

 

[Guest guest]

Where can I purchase these?

 

Bondada Umamaheshwar [bumamahe]Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:25 AM'Ramakrishna 'RE: [ramakrishna] (unknown)Hi SeethaA devotee/disciple of Vivekananda Swami must read :1. Chicago Addresses2. Lectures from Colombo to Almora3. The life history of the Divine Trio (Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, HolyMother Sarada Devi, and Vivekananda Swami)These works will not only answer most your questions but are actually aprerequiste to get a glimpse of what Vedanta is all about.Kind RegardsMaheshSeetha K [seetha]Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:17 AMramakrishna Subject: [ramakrishna] (unknown)Hi all,I have been a part of this group for the last few days. My mind is full ofnumerous doubts. I will be glad if anyone can help in my understanding ofthings better.First of all, if our current condition is the result of the past and ourfuture that of the present, where did we start from?If death is just the soul changing clothes, then does it mean that the totalnumber of souls a constant?Then how would one explain the increasing humanpopulation?The rate of death is decreasing and the rate of birthincreasing..so where do these souls come from?I am confused. It may sound silly, as it did to me when I re read the mailafter typing, please excuse my ignorance..:-)Also, I would like to read the scriptures and understand them(the vedas). Iknow it is not a simple task, but I think I need to start somewhere. Wherecan I get to learn it. And if sanskrit is a prerequisite, then where can Ilearn sanskrit?May God bless all,Seetha-- _____________FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct®, up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 Sri Ramakrishnaye NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk

[Guest guest]

Pranam to all the list members

i have tried to put some light on your doubts, this doubts are natural to

arise in our minds, theres nothing silly about it and infact rational in all

aspects.

1) First of all, if our current condition is the result of the past and

our future that of the present, where did we start from?

On a broader plane or rather say absolute plane there is no starting point

or ending point , no past, no present and no future, as if theres no time,

this is the theory put in by many realized souls. but when we speak of

relative plane all this attributes like future, past, present, starting

point seems to come into existence and therefore real. here there is a cycle

of One manifesting in many and vice-versa, but why do one needs to manifest

into many and at the same time many to get merged into one another. just

think of that often your mind wants to dwells on a awful of things. we want

to have this, that and as this thoughts are projected; they have to be

manifested, but from where they are going to derive the force- " Nature " or

the " One " . So here we can say that which is the cause is also the effect.

So as we along the path of cause nd effect we feel how this (The rate of

death is decreasing and the rate of birth increasing..so where do these

souls come from?) might be happening, just the chain of cause and effect.

thats why the sages use to say that all depends on our thoughts and

deeds....

hope it helped

Thanks a lot

Rahul

 

 

_________

Arise, awake and stop not till the desired Goal is achieved

-SWAMI VIVEKANANDA--------

 

 

 

> " Nancy " <nancybrook

>Ramakrishna

><Ramakrishna >

>RE: [ramakrishna] (unknown)

>Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:40:21 -0600

>

>Where can I purchase these?

>

> Bondada Umamaheshwar [bumamahe]

> Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:25 AM

> 'Ramakrishna '

> RE: [ramakrishna] (unknown)

>

>

> Hi Seetha

>

> A devotee/disciple of Vivekananda Swami must read :

>

> 1. Chicago Addresses

> 2. Lectures from Colombo to Almora

> 3. The life history of the Divine Trio (Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa,

>Holy

> Mother Sarada Devi, and Vivekananda Swami)

>

> These works will not only answer most your questions but are actually a

> prerequiste to get a glimpse of what Vedanta is all about.

>

> Kind Regards

>

> Mahesh

>

>

>

>

> Seetha K [seetha]

> Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:17 AM

> ramakrishna

> [ramakrishna] (unknown)

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have been a part of this group for the last few days. My mind is full

>of

> numerous doubts. I will be glad if anyone can help in my understanding

>of

> things better.

> First of all, if our current condition is the result of the past and our

> future that of the present, where did we start from?

> If death is just the soul changing clothes, then does it mean that the

>total

> number of souls a constant?Then how would one explain the increasing

>human

> population?The rate of death is decreasing and the rate of birth

> increasing..so where do these souls come from?

> I am confused. It may sound silly, as it did to me when I re read the

>mail

> after typing, please excuse my ignorance..:-)

>

> Also, I would like to read the scriptures and understand them(the

>vedas).

>I

> know it is not a simple task, but I think I need to start somewhere.

>Where

> can I get to learn it. And if sanskrit is a prerequisite, then where can

>I

> learn sanskrit?

>

> May God bless all,

> Seetha

> --

>

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> Vivekananda Centre London

> http://www.vivekananda.co.uk

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Seetha-

 

Maybe you are like Arjuna on the battefield- you need

Sri Krishna to remove your doubts! Therefore, study

the Bhagavad Gita! All your doubts will be removed...

I don't think you need to formally study Sanskrit. Get

a translation that has the original Sanskrit and your

native language. Slowly, you will learn enough

Sanskrit to grasp the essential principles and ideas.

Good luck!

 

Ravi

--- Seetha K <seetha wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I have been a part of this group for the last few

> days. My mind is full of numerous doubts. I will be

> glad if anyone can help in my understanding of

> things better.

> First of all, if our current condition is the result

> of the past and our future that of the present,

> where did we start from?

> If death is just the soul changing clothes, then

> does it mean that the total number of souls a

> constant?Then how would one explain the increasing

> human population?The rate of death is decreasing and

> the rate of birth increasing..so where do these

> souls come from?

> I am confused. It may sound silly, as it did to me

> when I re read the mail after typing, please excuse

> my ignorance..:-)

>

> Also, I would like to read the scriptures and

> understand them(the vedas). I know it is not a

> simple task, but I think I need to start somewhere.

> Where can I get to learn it. And if sanskrit is a

> prerequisite, then where can I learn sanskrit?

>

> May God bless all,

> Seetha

> --

>

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