Guest guest Posted June 19, 2000 Report Share Posted June 19, 2000 ------ GIVE YOUR WIFE A BREAK! Lowest prices on maids, lawn care, carpet cleaning, painting and remodeling services in your area at our new FREE website. http://click./1/5572/3/_/411454/_/961424259/ ------ Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah Vivekananda Centre London http://www.btinternet.com/~vivekananda/ ------ There are 8 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. VML-6/18/00 ananta <sarada 2. VML-6/17/00 ananta <sarada 3. Avadhuta Gita " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda 4. Marathi / Natraj " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda 5. Re: Digest Number 472 kedars 6. sutra Anurag Goel <anurag 7. Basic questions. " Gopi Krishna " <gopi 8. VML-6/19/00 ananta <sarada ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:04:05 -0400 ananta <sarada VML-6/18/00 One other idea the dualists preach. They protest against the idea of praying to God, " Lord, give me this and give me that. " They think that should not be done. If a man must ask some material gift, he should ask inferior beings for it; ask one of these gods, or angels or a perfected being for temporal things. God is only to be loved. It is almost a blasphemy to pray to God, " Lord, give me this, and give me that. " According to the dualists, therefore, what a man wants, he will get sooner or later, by praying to one of the gods; but if he wants salvation, he must worship God. This is the religion of the masses of India. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:21:17 -0400 ananta <sarada VML-6/17/00 The perfected soul, if it wishes, can take any form; it is able to take a hundred bodies, if it wishes. or have none at all, if it so desires. It becomes almost almighty, except that it cannot create; that power belongs to God alone. None, however perfect, can manage the affairs of the universe: that function belongs to God. But all souls, when they become perfect, become happy for ever and live eternally with God. This is the dualistic statement. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 3 Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:23:21 +0100 " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda Avadhuta Gita Song of the ever - free Avadhuta Gita Chapter Four Verse 1 Brahman cannot be invoked or abandoned, because it is formless. Therefore, what is the use of offering flowers and leaves or practising meditation and repeating the mantra? How can one worship that Supreme Beatitude in which both unity and diversity are merged? ______________________ ______________________ Message: 4 Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:27:03 +0100 " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda Marathi / Natraj Does any list member have any idea if Swami Vivekananda was fluent in Marathi? This question was sent by Uday. There is another question posted by Gopi Krishna - can any list member help with that? jay ..... =================== - UDAYAKIRAN_C <UDAYAKIRAN_C 'Vivekananda Centre' <vivekananda 19 June 2000 07:18 A small doubt Hi Jay, Was Swami Vivekananda fluent in Marathi? I am posting Swami Vivekananda's quotes daily on our Company Bulletin Board and I get doubts from many of the employees. Some of them are quite trivial, like this one.. Thought, may be u can help me... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Uday<(*¿*)> " Let Noble thoughts come to us from all directions. " -Rig Veda =============== Om I have a very basic question to ask. Kindly do not be surprised and bear with me if it sounds too childish to ask such simple question. But, all the more, I wish to know the exact purpose and bhava behind praying. Of course, many people have given me different answers, but I wish to know from you all as well. 1. Why one should pray? Can one pray for others? If yes, then when one is praying for others, if a bad thought crosses the mind, does it effect the person for whom we are praying? Does prayer remove the impending (preordained, or as we call it destiny) troubles in life? 2. I wish to have the five slokas of Sri Adi Sankaracharya virachita Manisha Panchakam along with its meaning and commentary, if possible. Thanks and Regards Gopi. P. Gopi Krishna e-mail: gopi ______________________ ______________________ Message: 5 Mon, 19 Jun 2000 02:27:15 -0500 kedars Re: Digest Number 472 Hi! All, Had been to a bhajan and talk last week. Wanted to highlight one very important point said during the talk :- " There are no material solutions to any material problems. Today's material problems were yesterday's material solutions. Tommorrow's material problems are today's material solutions. " " There can only be spiritual solutions to material problems. " It's something so simple but still I had to be reminded of it. Common sense is not all that common after all. Thats it... Love at His Feet, Kedar.S. ---- www.chequemail.com A FREE web based email service ... get paid to use it ! ---- ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:47:19 +0530 (IST) Anurag Goel <anurag sutra ~~~~~~ om shanthi om~~~~~~ Excerpted from the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna p.151 Monday 19/6/00 The Master Said: " Once a man said to me, 'Sir, can you teach me quickly the thing you call samAdhi? After a man has attained samAdhi all his actions drop away. All devotional activities, such as worship, japa, and the like, as well as all worldly duties, cease to exist for such a person. " om tat sat ~~~~~~ om shanthi om~~~~~~ Extrait du Gospel de Sri Ramakrishna p.151 Lundi 19/6/00 Le Maître Dit: " C'est arrivé une fois qu'un homme disait à moi, 'Monsieur, pouvez-vous m'enseigner rapidement la chose que vous appelez le samAdhi? Après qu'un homme a atteint le samAdhi, toute ses actions s'en aller l'un après l'autre. Toutes les activités de dévotion, telles que le culte, le japa, et les semblables, aussi bien que tous des fonctions mondaines, cessent d'exister pour une telle personne. " om tat sat ~~~~~om shanthi om~~~~~ ______________________ ______________________ Message: 7 Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:39:46 +0530 " Gopi Krishna " <gopi Basic questions. Om I have a very basic question to ask. Kindly do not be surprised and bear with me if it sounds too childish to ask such simple question. But, all the more, I wish to know the exact purpose and bhava behind praying. Of course, many people have given me different answers, but I wish to know from you all as well. 1. Why one should pray? Can one pray for others? If yes, then when one is praying for others, if a bad thought crosses the mind, does it effect the person for whom we are praying? Does prayer remove the impending (preordained, or as we call it destiny) troubles in life? Thanks and Regards Gopi. P. Gopi Krishna South Asia Multidisciplinary Advisory Team (SAAT) International Labour Organisation (ILO) Third Floor, Theatre Court India Habitat Centre Lodhi Road New Delhi - 110 003 India Off. Tel. No. 00.91.11.4602101, 02, 03, 06 & 07. Res. Tel. No. 00.91.11.2621814 Fax No. 00.91.11.4647973 & 4602111 e-mail: gopi ______________________ ______________________ Message: 8 Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:07:24 -0400 ananta <sarada VML-6/19/00 The real Vedanta philosophy begins with those known as the qualified non-dualists. They make the statement that the effect is never different from the cause; the effect is but the cause reproduced in another form. If the universe is the effect and God the cause, it must be God Himself-it cannot be anything but that. They start with the assertion that God is both the efficient and the material cause of the universe; that He Himself is the creator, and He Himself is the material out of which the whole of nature is projected. -- __________________________ ____ Today we continue Swamiji's lecture called: THE ATMAN (Delivered in America) This is a part of a daily study of the lectures and writings of Swami Vivekananda. All lectures are sent out in sequenced form, as he spoke them. Please tell a friend about this Vivekananda Mailing list and study group. To or send a message to sarada. ______________________ ______________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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