Guest guest Posted October 25, 2000 Report Share Posted October 25, 2000 Jay simple and to the point answers. Well said. That the most difficult discussion to defend. The goal in spiriruality is to rise above the feeling that we are a body. Then we have rise above mind and prana. And by not being celibate we again go back to body n mind and become caught in body and mind. But the enlightened one is free from such restrictions because the enlightened knows who is he/she is and i guess there should be nothing that can lead to his/her downfall. Jay with the regard to first question i think its ok as long as its for child. If a person is married he needs to live a balanced married life. Whatever i learned from the teachings of My Pujya Gurudev. He himself has been an expert in the field of Tantra. Pujya gurudev said that Bhayananda and his followers corrupted Tantra by introducing sex, liquor, smoking, Meat and Fish for their own selfish ends. And its after that Tantra got this negative image. Pujya Gurudev has clearly said that Tantra is all pure n pious. http://www.siddhasharam.org If one is interested in knowing about this then one can go the above site. I am also in doubt about the left hand path of Tantra. Is anything true abt that path or not. Michelle any pleasure other than the feeling that " there is no two " will lead to ones downfall sooner or later. If we take in to account the statement by Shri Ramakrishna Paramhansa that " Every path we follow leads to Kundalini Awakening " . And the chakraas of kundalini can awaken only in the presence of all pious feelings. And the one whos in all divine love is very far from the sexual feelings. Love is said to be present in heart and heart is the physical part in the body which corresponds to Anahat Chakra. > > Message: 5 > Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:16:59 +0100 > " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda > Celibacy contd...... > > - > michele <michele > Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda > 19 October 2000 00:38 > Re: [selfknow-l] Fw: Celibacy... > > > > How does that fit in with the practices of Tantra Yoga, in which the > sexual > > energy can be used for reaching altered states of awareness, and > ultimately > > attaining a moment of ONENESS (not just on the physical level, but on the > > Divine level)? > > > > My understanding of Tantra is that celibacy is a matter of choice and not > > absolutely necessary to spiritual growth. What is more important is the > > intent behind being sexually active or abstaining. That is using our > sexual > > energies wisely, with the right people, and not just for physical pleasure > > alone. > > > > OM Shanti > > Michele > > ======Response======== > > Celibacy - is a difficult subject to promote in a world which is > strongly driven by the 'sex impulse'. > > Let me first share with you some of the light hearted banter > that followed my talk: - > > Q: 'What will happen to mankind if we all became celibate? > R: If you do not procreate; don't worry there are many others out there > who will happily take over your task. > Q: Are YOU celibate? > R: Yep. > Q: What pleasure is left for us then? > R: There is cash value - if you succeed then each follicle on your body > will give as much pleasure as a sex organ. > Q: What about following a system of 'Tantra' which involves sex > R: That is 'Left hand method' - not recommended. > Q: Can we not practice celibacy when we are older? > R: With blanks in your pistol - it is no good saying I will not shoot! > > ======= > Further comment:- > > There is a tendency to dilute ideas of celibacy. > I told the meeting 'celibacy' is necessary for these reasons > (a) It is a major distraction and needs to be put aside for serious > practice of meditation. > (b) It drains the energy needed for spiritual progress. We all have finite > supply of this energy. > © If one can master this most powerful natural instinct - that act of > self-control itself generates tremendous self confidence and power. > One then feels that there is no stopping now.. > - Spirituality is attainable - It can be first hand experience. > > jay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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