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This message is so interesting that I am taking the liberty of sending

it to the list. jay..

 

 

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" charles luke " <atripalda

<vivekananda

Thursday, March 08, 2001 03:25

two ways?

 

 

> I am not wise or learned enough to eenter into

> discussion about your reply to Shawn. It was very

> thoughtful. But for me it also is misleading. I do not

> see a dichotomy only. For me there is a middle way: in

> western philosophy ( so little understood and so badly

> distorted) the grreat philosophers have tried to use

> reason and logic to systematically describe the moment

> of entrance into the insight into what I call being,

> what a poet has decribed as the still point of the

> turning world. I beleive I have from time to time

> grasped that instant where all is changing and nothing

> is changing.

> But I would not contrast these realms as truth and

> illusion or maya. That approach seems to me to risk

> another kind of distortion.

> So my vision can comfortably embrace the instant of

> mind that is eternal and that only reveals itself in

> the passage of time and change around us. One needs

> the other, energizes the other.

> Thank you for letting me explain my view. I recognize

> that there is so much in language and thought that

> only clouds and so I do not wish to say I disagree. My

> aim is only to state what I am comfortable in

> understanding.

> Charles

>

 

Dear Charles

 

Your message is extremely interesting. I hope we can all develop the

same humility you have expressed in your email. Spirituality is a

sensitive subject and very much a subjective matter. The two ways

I pointed out to explain: Why all this? Saying the answer can be

either 'leela or maya' is a polarised response.

 

What you say in relation to your own experience is really worth

a million articulated phrases that may or may not relate to you.

Spirituality - after all is really a matter of personal realisation.

We will evolve and take help of phrases, teachers and teachings

that we can relate to.

 

Thank you for sharing your personal 'spiritual experience' with

the rest of us.

 

regards

jay

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