RE: [ramakrishna] Prayer and Divine Will : Tough thing to rec oncile HELP!

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Namaste

 

May I know where in the bible does it say 'Be Still and know that I am God'?

Thanks.

 

>

> R D [sMTP:jaguarxox]

> Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:16 AM

> Ramakrishna

> Re: [ramakrishna] Re: Prayer and Divine Will : Tough thing

> to reconcile HELP!

>

> Dear Friend-

>

> Ramana Maharishi would say:

>

> " Who is praying? Who thinks they need help? Who thinks

> they are not realized? " When you find the answer, the

> question will disappear....

>

> The Bible says " Be still and know that I am God. "

> There's nothing else to do. Keep the mind calm and

> quiet- then all your questions and prayers will fall

> away.....

>

>

> --- Arghya <arghyajyoti wrote:

> > My question arises before prayer and does not

> > encompass what will be

> > in the prayer

> > The answer to the question lies in Saranagati

> > according to me. This

> > is in looking at the challange from the Jana yoga

> > aspect. Remember

> > all solutions differ according to the yoga path an

> > aspirant takes.

> > Though in the end all parameters achieved is the

> > same, whatever be

> > the way we describe it while we tred along. Once we

> > reach it is the

> > same spot.

> >

> >

> > Ramakrishna, kasi_visvanath wrote:

> > > Ramakrishna,

> > > >

> > > > --- Arghya <arghyajyoti> wrote:

> > > > > Can any one solve this problem:

> > > > > When I pray I ask for, say, Nirvasana. But I

> > know

> > > > > all is God's Will

> > > > > and the world goes on as He wishes then how

> > come he

> > > > > will listen to my

> > > > > prayer and grant my wish. So praying or not

> > praying

> > > > > matters little!!

> > > > > Can I have the opinions of the members?

> > > Om Namah Sri Bhagavane Ramakrsnaya Namo Namah!

> > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

> > >

> > > Namaste dear One!!

> > >

> > > the question is flawed because of not

> > understanding what " real "

> > prayer

> > > is about...if we just prattle onward to the Divine

> > asking for our

> > > little " wishes " and " desires " ...we may get them or

> > not, as you

> > > say...but IS that why we should pray???

> > >

> > > What do we call prayer???

> > >

> > > Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna had a very simple prayer to

> > His Beloved

> > Divine

> > > Mother....He knew what was important and what was

> > dross...and He

> > told

> > > us thru His Gospel....many times!!!

> > >

> > > Bhagavan said that He used to pray alone to Divine

> > Mother in this

> > > way... " Oh my Divine Mother, i offer you pain and

> > pleasure...i do

> > not

> > > need them they are yours...and in return O My

> > Mother, please grant

> > > this child of Yours, Pure Love of Thy Lotus

> > Feet. "

> > > (and then He continued on down thru the list of

> > opposites, until

> > He

> > > came to Truth and untruth...which He would NOT

> > offer, as He felt

> > that

> > > Truth was the highest...

> > >

> > > This is a very good kind of prayer and will as one

> > of the previous

> > > folks said, raise the sail such that the wind of

> > Divine Grace will

> > > blow your boat across this vast ocean of delusions

> > to that Other

> > > Shore, where the Mother lives...in Her Palace of

> > Jewels, the Sri

> > > Cakra..

> > >

> > > Any selfish, personal prayer MAY answered but you

> > may wish it

> > > hadn't...and often it doesn't get answered because

> > this is not the

> > > Mother's will....

> > >

> > > so when we pray and feel unheard, perhaps we are

> > not offering the

> > > kinds of prayers which CAN be heard...or SHOULD be

> > heard....as long

> > as

> > > we are not Saints, we should be praying for Divine

> > Love of the

> > Lotus

> > > Feet of the Beloved Deity, Whomever might be.

> > >

> > > my Amma also suggested that we should pray to the

> > Divine asking:

> > > " Oh my Divine Mother, please Shower Your Grace

> > upon this little

> > child

> > > that he might live entirely according to Thy will

> > alone! "

> > >

> > > this is the kind of prayer which the Mahatmas

> > suggest...

> > > this is the kind of prayer which i would suggest

> > also...and the

> > kind

> > > of prayers which i offer to my Beloved Divine

> > Mother!

> > >

> > > In the Divine Mother's Love,

> > > and in Her Service

> > > as ever,

> > > your own self,

> > >

> > > visvanathan

> > >

> > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Psalms 46:10 ..i think so or it is some song which was wrriten in 1982

 

 

 

K Kathirasan ADM NCS [sMTP:kkathir]

Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:55 AM

Ramakrishna

RE: [ramakrishna] Re: Prayer and Divine Will : Tough thing to rec

oncile HELP!

 

Namaste

 

May I know where in the bible does it say 'Be Still and know that I am God'?

Thanks.

 

>

> R D [sMTP:jaguarxox]

> Thursday, May 31, 2001 1:16 AM

> Ramakrishna

> Re: [ramakrishna] Re: Prayer and Divine Will : Tough thing

> to reconcile HELP!

>

> Dear Friend-

>

> Ramana Maharishi would say:

>

> " Who is praying? Who thinks they need help? Who thinks

> they are not realized? " When you find the answer, the

> question will disappear....

>

> The Bible says " Be still and know that I am God. "

> There's nothing else to do. Keep the mind calm and

> quiet- then all your questions and prayers will fall

> away.....

>

>

> --- Arghya <arghyajyoti wrote:

> > My question arises before prayer and does not

> > encompass what will be

> > in the prayer

> > The answer to the question lies in Saranagati

> > according to me. This

> > is in looking at the challange from the Jana yoga

> > aspect. Remember

> > all solutions differ according to the yoga path an

> > aspirant takes.

> > Though in the end all parameters achieved is the

> > same, whatever be

> > the way we describe it while we tred along. Once we

> > reach it is the

> > same spot.

> >

> >

> > Ramakrishna, kasi_visvanath wrote:

> > > Ramakrishna,

> > > >

> > > > --- Arghya <arghyajyoti> wrote:

> > > > > Can any one solve this problem:

> > > > > When I pray I ask for, say, Nirvasana. But I

> > know

> > > > > all is God's Will

> > > > > and the world goes on as He wishes then how

> > come he

> > > > > will listen to my

> > > > > prayer and grant my wish. So praying or not

> > praying

> > > > > matters little!!

> > > > > Can I have the opinions of the members?

> > > Om Namah Sri Bhagavane Ramakrsnaya Namo Namah!

> > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

> > >

> > > Namaste dear One!!

> > >

> > > the question is flawed because of not

> > understanding what " real "

> > prayer

> > > is about...if we just prattle onward to the Divine

> > asking for our

> > > little " wishes " and " desires " ...we may get them or

> > not, as you

> > > say...but IS that why we should pray???

> > >

> > > What do we call prayer???

> > >

> > > Bhagavan Sri Ramakrsna had a very simple prayer to

> > His Beloved

> > Divine

> > > Mother....He knew what was important and what was

> > dross...and He

> > told

> > > us thru His Gospel....many times!!!

> > >

> > > Bhagavan said that He used to pray alone to Divine

> > Mother in this

> > > way... " Oh my Divine Mother, i offer you pain and

> > pleasure...i do

> > not

> > > need them they are yours...and in return O My

> > Mother, please grant

> > > this child of Yours, Pure Love of Thy Lotus

> > Feet. "

> > > (and then He continued on down thru the list of

> > opposites, until

> > He

> > > came to Truth and untruth...which He would NOT

> > offer, as He felt

> > that

> > > Truth was the highest...

> > >

> > > This is a very good kind of prayer and will as one

> > of the previous

> > > folks said, raise the sail such that the wind of

> > Divine Grace will

> > > blow your boat across this vast ocean of delusions

> > to that Other

> > > Shore, where the Mother lives...in Her Palace of

> > Jewels, the Sri

> > > Cakra..

> > >

> > > Any selfish, personal prayer MAY answered but you

> > may wish it

> > > hadn't...and often it doesn't get answered because

> > this is not the

> > > Mother's will....

> > >

> > > so when we pray and feel unheard, perhaps we are

> > not offering the

> > > kinds of prayers which CAN be heard...or SHOULD be

> > heard....as long

> > as

> > > we are not Saints, we should be praying for Divine

> > Love of the

> > Lotus

> > > Feet of the Beloved Deity, Whomever might be.

> > >

> > > my Amma also suggested that we should pray to the

> > Divine asking:

> > > " Oh my Divine Mother, please Shower Your Grace

> > upon this little

> > child

> > > that he might live entirely according to Thy will

> > alone! "

> > >

> > > this is the kind of prayer which the Mahatmas

> > suggest...

> > > this is the kind of prayer which i would suggest

> > also...and the

> > kind

> > > of prayers which i offer to my Beloved Divine

> > Mother!

> > >

> > > In the Divine Mother's Love,

> > > and in Her Service

> > > as ever,

> > > your own self,

> > >

> > > visvanathan

> > >

> > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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> Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

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>

>