Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 UNSELFISH WORK IS TRUE RENUNCIATION The world is not for cowards . Do not try to fly. Look not for success or failure. Join yourself to the perfectly unselfish will and work on . Know that the mind which is born to succeed joins itself to a determined will and perseveres . You have the right to work , but do not become so degenerate as to look for results . Work incessantly , but see something behind the work . Even good deeds can find a man in bondage. Therefore be not bound by good deeds or by the desire for name and fame. Those who know this secret pass beyond the round of birth and death and become immortal . The ordinary sanyassin gives up the world , goes out ,and thinks of god. THE REAL SANYASSIN LIVES IN THE WORLD, BUT IS NOT IN IT . Those who deny themselves , live in the forest, and chew the cud of unsatisfied desires are not true renounces .Live in the midst of battle of life. Anyone can keep calm in a cave or asleep .Stand in the whirl and madness of action and reach the center .If you have found the center you cannot be moved . _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2001 Report Share Posted July 23, 2001 Dear KS3 1. " swami vivekananda ji is my life and i live for his ideals. " -- Thats what you say ! 2. You are yet unmarried ! 3. Do you have the necessity of looking after old/ageing parents ? (You have not mentioned this.) If the answer is yes for this question, then that is the only thing that can hold you back from Sanyasa. A " loving " girl friend is not good enough reason to live in the world !!! However, the decision is always yours. Regards Mahesh ks3 [ks3] Monday, July 23, 2001 12:24 AM Ramakrishna [ramakrishna] please help i don't want to marry nor do i want to indulge in sex. i want to dedicate my life for spiritual and academic achievment. i have a female friend who is madly in love with me and even i like her and love her a lot. but my love is that of a human being towards another. she wants to have sex with me and wants my baby. she wants to live with me. i had told her about all this very early but she insists that she will live with me. i sincerely don't want to indulge in sex. but i can see the love and longing in her eyes. what do i do? can anyone suggest anything. swami vivekananda ji is my life and i live for his ideals. Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah Vivekananda Centre London http://www.vivekananda.co.uk <http://www.vivekananda.co.uk> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Dear KS3- Sometimes desires (sex, human intimacy) need to be pursued in order to know that they are empty and temporary. But this can also become a slippery slope- pleasurable experiences create samskaras in the mind and those desires can become inflamed through over indulgence. Only you know the state of your mind. Having a family can feel like extreme bondage for the free spirit- and the attraction of sex and romance eventually diminishes, leaving you with a lot of responsibilities and no time to think of God. You can literally wake up one day and realize your opportunity to practice sadhana is gone!! Don't be such a fool! Pray to Vivekanandaji for the right path. Keep your mind inwards. Discriminate. Does this women really love you for your spiritual ideals? Do you love her for her spiritual ideals? Will she share your journey towards God or just entangle you more in the world? Don't run from sex because you think it is impure or bad. Remember that God is the big magnet and 'woman' is the small magnet. Which magnet attracts you more? Renounce these attachments only when you are firmly convinced that you want the direct path to God- and are willing to pursue that Goal with all your body, mind, and soul. You can take a direct flight from NY to Delhi or you can stop over in Europe along the way. Both flights will get you to your goal eventually.... (those delays in Europe can be pretty painful- you might even forget you were going to Delhi and just settle down there!) Good luck- may God bless you with wisdom and discrimination! Ravi --- Bondada Umamaheshwar <bumamahe wrote: > Dear KS3 > > 1. " swami vivekananda ji is my life and i live for > his ideals. " -- Thats > what you say ! > 2. You are yet unmarried ! > 3. Do you have the necessity of looking after > old/ageing parents ? (You have > not mentioned this.) If the answer is yes for this > question, then that is > the only thing that can hold you back from Sanyasa. > A " loving " girl friend > is not good enough reason to live in the world !!! > > However, the decision is always yours. > > Regards > > Mahesh > > > ks3 [ks3] > Monday, July 23, 2001 12:24 AM > Ramakrishna > [ramakrishna] please help > > > i don't want to marry nor do i want to indulge in > sex. i want to dedicate my > life for spiritual and academic achievment. i have a > female friend who is > madly in love with me and even i like her and love > her a lot. but my love is > that of a human being towards another. she wants to > have sex with me and > wants my baby. she wants to live with me. i had told > her about all this very > early but she insists that she will live with me. i > sincerely don't want to > indulge in sex. but i can see the love and longing > in her eyes. what do i > do? can anyone suggest anything. swami vivekananda > ji is my life and i live > for his ideals. > > > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.vivekananda.co.uk > <http://www.vivekananda.co.uk> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 Hello Friend, Nice to hear about a guy with a good mental strength towards spirituality. Infact, you can accomplish both spirituality and family by staying in the self or true renunciation.* Bye Watch the panorama of the world like a movie. With best regards, Karthik * True renunciation does not mean the renunciation of worldly life.It means renunciation of ego or "I". - Bhagvan Ramana Maharshi. >"ks3" >Ramakrishna > >[ramakrishna] please help >Mon, 23 Jul 2001 00:23:34 +0530 > >i don't want to marry nor do i want to indulge in sex. i want to dedicate my life for spiritual and academic achievment. i have a female friend who is madly in love with me and even i like her and love her a lot. but my love is that of a human being towards another. she wants to have sex with me and wants my baby. she wants to live with me. i had told her about all this very early but she insists that she will live with me. i sincerely don't want to indulge in sex. but i can see the love and longing in her eyes. what do i do? can anyone suggest anything. swami vivekananda ji is my life and i live for his ideals. > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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