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Hi Every one, A while ago I had asked the question of " celebacy " in

spirituality. After a quite an interesting and mind opening dialoguges with

many members I have decided to go ahead with with my journey on the spiritual

path and not worry about that requirement at present. Now I have another

question which is I am afraid not as Sexy. That is the need for the GURU.

Whatever I have read always says " get youself a Guru " or you can be in

trouble or will be lost. Now I don't know about you guys but I have not

found any one I could trust as a Guru here. Scriptures also says if you are

ready, God will provide you with the Guru. I am tired of reading books. I

want to get in the water and learn how to swim rather than keep reading about

the best way to swim. Do I start on my own? But How?????

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

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Replying to Prashanth, in Digest # 892:

Swamiji's discussions of evolution are scattered throughout his Complete

Works. Perhaps someone has collected them into one place; if so, I don't

know it. He looks at evolution from the Vedantic perspective on the

Samkhya cosmology, and this is not what Western scientist have in mind when

they speak of evolution (Darwinian and post-Darwinian). So it is difficult

to come up with an exact comparison. Moreover, Western refinement of

evolutionary theory has taken place since Vivekananda's time. To pinpoint

an answer to your exact question would take some looking. You may get some

kind of answer from the following excerpt, (Vol. 8, p.238.)

" All modern religions start with the idea that man was once pure, he

fell, and will become pure again. I do not see where they get this idea.

The seat of knowledge is the soul; external circumstance simply stimulates

the soul; knowledge is the power of the soul. Century after century it has

been manufacturing bodies. The various forms of incarnation are merely

successive chapters of the story of the life of the soul. We are constantly

building our bodies. The whole universe is in a state of flux, of expansion

and contraction, of change. Vedanta holds that the soul never changes in

essence, but it is modified by Maya. "

So......Maya includes of course, all one's karma, past, present and

future, as well as all the influences of culture or society. To explain the

development of a spiritual personality one would have to take all these

into account, and then say that the main thing is that the person has/had

risen above ignorance, to a great extent.

Swami Yogeshananda

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Dear Anup

 

Again let the approach be similar for finding a Guru.

 

Start walking on the path and the means will come at

the right time. Till such time believe that God is

your Guru. Ask him for guidance.

 

Having said that let me add that the important thing

is not to look at exteriors like great oratory,

personality or the ability to enthrall people with

explanations and words, name or fame. Look for love

that is the only criteria.....love for God and all

creation. He will help you to find love. Wordly

criteria are poor measures on the spiritual path.

 

All the best.

 

Dev

 

 

 

 

 

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hi Anup

Go to Temples when some great saints addressing or go

to movements like Hare krishna often, you will

definately find someone. I started like that.

 

Good Luck

Robin

 

--- alahiry wrote: > Hi Every one, A while ago

I had asked the question

> of " celebacy " in

> spirituality. After a quite an interesting and mind

> opening dialoguges with

> many members I have decided to go ahead with with my

> journey on the spiritual

> path and not worry about that requirement at

> present. Now I have another

> question which is I am afraid not as Sexy. That is

> the need for the GURU.

> Whatever I have read always says " get youself a

> Guru " or you can be in

> trouble or will be lost. Now I don't know about you

> guys but I have not

> found any one I could trust as a Guru here.

> Scriptures also says if you are

> ready, God will provide you with the Guru. I am

> tired of reading books. I

> want to get in the water and learn how to swim

> rather than keep reading about

> the best way to swim. Do I start on my own? But

> How?????

> Anup

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

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