Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 Question from Kendra in reference to the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna. ===================================================== From Kendra kcburroughs > " A man cannot live on the roof a long time. He comes down again. Those who > realize Brahman in samadhi come down also and find that it is Brahman that has > become the universe and its living beings. In the musical scale there are the > notes sa, re, ga, ma, pa, dha, and ni; but one cannot keep one's voice on ni a > long time. The ego does not vanish altogether. The man coming down from samadhi > perceives that it is Brahman that has become the ego, the universe, and all its > living beings. This is known as vijnana. " > > What I interpret from my limited knowledge of Indian music is that ni represents > an incomplete state. It is a note with a sense of tension that longs for > resolution in sa, which represents the undifferentiated oneness of Brahman > toward which ni longs. > Now, assuming this is correct, how is this like person in samadhi who comes > down to consciousness of the world? Can someone spell out exactly what this > musical metaphor is intended to imply? > From Kendra kcburroughs ==============response===================== Dear Kendra To give the correct interpretation to Sri Ramakrishna's teachings is a risky business. But I will have a go. I personally do not think he is implying a technical metaphor relating to 'ni' being an incomplete note. He has simply said that it is (physically) difficult to hold this note for a long time. In this instance he is using the metaphor to suggest that a person who has Brahma-jnana does not stay in Samadhi indefinitely. Just as holding this 'ni' note is physically difficult - in the same manner staying in Samadhi for very long periods can be physically damaging. (else the body may be damaged or wither away). So he uses:- " A man cannot live on the roof a long time " . He also tells us that the only way a link between the state of samadhi (the un-manifested) and wakefulness (the manifested) is maintained is via the ego. Without this link a person cannot return to body experience. Hence the 'ego' may appear to be a limitation but it provides the vital link between these two states. His concluding remarks suggests that for such a person 'ego' is no longer seen as a limitation but is seen as manifestation of Brahman. (it has become a tool). " He realises that it is Brahman that has become the ego, the universe and all living things " . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Give my salutations to Swami Adishwaranandji and ask him if this interpretation is ok. He knows me as Dilip. regards jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2001 Report Share Posted November 24, 2001 Norton Antivirus detected a virus in this e-mail. - <Ramkrishna; <Mission; <Vivekanand; <Memorial; " Porbandar " <rkmvm <undisclosed-recipients:;> Friday, November 23, 2001 10:16 PM With reference to your letter. > We are sending herewith details of expenditure incurred on primary relief as well as details of donation received both from India and abroad for GER. We shall be grateful to you if you kindly send Rs. 305145/- being the balance amount to be received from you for primary relief as we have already received Rs. 15 lacs under this head from you. > > With my humble pranams once again, > > Yours affectionately, > > > (Nikhileswarananda) > > To, > Rev General Secretary Maharaj, > Ramakrishna Mission, > Belur Math.. _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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