Message vs. Messenger

[Guest guest]

Dear jay:

 

" Buddha was the spiritual messenger for the East and Vivekananda is the

spiritual messenger for the West "

 

You used this quote (source uncited) in your recent postscript message. It

has caused two questions to " surface " : 1) What is the message? and 2) Who is

the messenger?

 

I " discovered " Sri Ramakrishna three years ago, and have been reading

everything about Him I could find ever since. I also have the complete works

of Vivekananda on cd, but have yet had the opportunity to " crack it open. "

However, I have read Swamiji's address to the World Parliment of Religions.

(Is it correct that Swamiji, himself, never wrote a word of his " works, " but

they were all transcribed by others from his extemporaneous talks?)

 

I guess my questions revolve around my belief that, without Ramakrishna,

there would have been no Vivekananda. I notice your organization is called,

" Vivekananda Center, " while the List you started is called the " Ramakrishna

List. " I also noticed in your recent and rewarding message about your talks

to Westerners, that you (apparently) focus on sharing Vivekananda, rather

than Ramakrishna.

 

Lastly, it is interesting that the Ramakrishna Mission does not appear to

wish to create a " Messiah " out of Sri Ramakrishna, even though He is

considered an Incarnation. Also, it appears the " Ramakrishna movement " (if I

may coin this term, in order to describe such organizations as yours and the

Vedanta Societies in America) is equally happy in sharing Vivekananda with

the world, along with or even to a greater degree than Ramakrishna.

 

I'll stop here, and hope this opens some interesting and enlightening (for

me, at least) discussion.

 

God Bless Us All,

Brad

[Guest guest]

Dear Brad,

 

This is the way I think. The audience for Viveknanda and Ramakrishna teachings

are sligtly different. What I am saying is, Ramakrishna Teachings are really

apt for those who are already in Spiritual journey (Sadhana) and anyone who

follows his teachings will definitely realise that absolute truth.

Where as Vivekananda teachings are for those who are not inclined to

spirituality and who think being intellectual is the greatest thing and more

involved in materialistic lifestyle, rational, and those who think God and

religion is all old stuff and think modern science as the greatest acheivement

etc. To adress these people Vivekananda speeches are the the best. It strikes

likes a lightning to their mind.

So Jay is right in saying Vivekananda as Messanger for West.As we see these

kind of people more in west. Or rather I would for modern time like this, with

so much advance in science and consumerist attitude it is Vivekananda teaching

only can make people spiritual. And ones you become spiritual, it Ramakrishna

all the way.

But in a broad picture there is no difference between Vivenkanda and

Ramakrishna teaching. Just they are presented in a diffrent way to suit

different people.

 

sarvam vasudevamayam jagath

Prashanth

 

> Message: 4

> Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:47:28 -0600

> " Brad Stephan " <brad

> Message vs. Messenger

>

> Dear jay:

>

> " Buddha was the spiritual messenger for the East and Vivekananda is the

> spiritual messenger for the West "

>

> You used this quote (source uncited) in your recent postscript message. It

> has caused two questions to " surface " : 1) What is the message? and 2) Who is

> the messenger?

>

> I " discovered " Sri Ramakrishna three years ago, and have been reading

> everything about Him I could find ever since. I also have the complete works

> of Vivekananda on cd, but have yet had the opportunity to " crack it open. "

> However, I have read Swamiji's address to the World Parliment of Religions.

> (Is it correct that Swamiji, himself, never wrote a word of his " works, " but

> they were all transcribed by others from his extemporaneous talks?)

>

> I guess my questions revolve around my belief that, without Ramakrishna,

> there would have been no Vivekananda. I notice your organization is called,

> " Vivekananda Center, " while the List you started is called the " Ramakrishna

> List. " I also noticed in your recent and rewarding message about your talks

> to Westerners, that you (apparently) focus on sharing Vivekananda, rather

> than Ramakrishna.

>

> Lastly, it is interesting that the Ramakrishna Mission does not appear to

> wish to create a " Messiah " out of Sri Ramakrishna, even though He is

> considered an Incarnation. Also, it appears the " Ramakrishna movement " (if I

> may coin this term, in order to describe such organizations as yours and the

> Vedanta Societies in America) is equally happy in sharing Vivekananda with

> the world, along with or even to a greater degree than Ramakrishna.

>

> I'll stop here, and hope this opens some interesting and enlightening (for

> me, at least) discussion.

>

> God Bless Us All,

> Brad

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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