[Sri Ramakrishna] A Couple Things

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" Brad Stephan " <brad

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Monday, December 03, 2001 02:38

[sri Ramakrishna] A Couple Things

 

 

> Greetings:

 

2) jay, great comparison of the three gunas to the three laws of

> thermodynamics! Do you (or anyone else) know if that comparison has ever

> been studied before? (I read the " Tao of Physics " some years back, prior

to

> my knowledge of Vedanta. I may have to re-read it to see if his analysis

> included Hindu cosmology.)

 

The examples I gave are not from Tao of Physics.

I made them up.

 

There is a recent book called " Whispering Pond " that you may like

to look up. It is the best one I have seen that tries to link science and

spirituality.

 

> Several months back, I sent an inquiry into www.allexperts.com , asking:

> " Is there anything in our physical universe that is absolutely still? " The

> response from a secular scientist was: " Absolute zero (approximately -273

> degrees Celcius) represents absolute cessation of motioin and we have not

> yet been able to attain it. The figure was deduced backward from

temperature

> to motion equations. As a quantum theorist, I look at absolute zero as an

> infinity because the absolute cessation of movement produces no time or

> energy. "

>

> My interest in this question is based on one definition of Samadhi as

being

> the absolute cessation of thought (i.e., stillness - For Christians on the

> List: " Be still, and know that I am God. . . " Psalm 46:10). My broader

> interest is: How close can scientific inquiry bring us to God? I believe

> God is the ultimate Scientist, so will the study of creation through the

> scientific method ulitmately lead us to our Creator? Is there a

mathmatical

> formula, theoretical insight or a technology that, someday, will bring us

> Realization? (If so, would that be consdiered a form of Jnana Yoga?) Or,

> will all avenues of scientific inquiry ultimately lead us to infinity - a

> chasm that logic will never cross? In either case, will scientists someday

> be the " Rishis " of the Kali Yuga - after all Sadhakas and Sadhus have

> achieved Moksha?

>

> Another thread for interested List members to chew on . . .

 

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Absolute zero is when the kinetic energy of

elementary particles (atoms or molecules) is zero.

This serves the purposes of Thermodynamics and its

statistical approach to Physics.

It does not mean there is no energy.... the very particles that

are supposed to be static are 'coiled up energy' hence

the dynamics are just hidden from view. The idea of anything

which is " absolutely without any dynamic features " has not appeared

in Physics. (if it were possible to do this then we will have something

that exists as a single pure guna and not as a combination of gunas).

Interesting prospect!

 

jay

 

 

jay

 

 

> God Bless,

> Brad

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> Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

> Vivekananda Centre London

> http://www.vivekananda.co.uk

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[Guest guest]

" In either case, will scientists someday be the

" Rishis " of the Kali Yuga - after all Sadhakas and

Sadhus have achieved Moksha? "

 

Scientists dealing with physical science gets

stagnated at a level since the physical world they

deal with is very finite and limited. They can't go

higher and realize the real nature of things. This is

the view according to Vedanta. But the spirit with

which they explore the physical world, if given a

different direction, i.e., towards the meta-physical

world, then they will certainly know the Truth.

Infinite can't be known from the finite.

 

Swami Ranganathanandaji Maharaj's books, " Science and

Religion " (publ: Advaita Ashrama, calcutta, India)

and, " Message of the Upanishads " (publ: Bharatiya

Vidya Bhavan, Bombay, India)deals this aspect with

wonderful explanations.

 

 

 

 

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