Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Pranam, Here i would like to know the opinion of the group as this group comprises both Sanyasis and Grahasths.I have been largely inspried by the works of Swami Vivekanada particulalrly his message of 'Service to God through Service to Man'. But I have found some of his statements confusing with regard to the issue of sanyasis and grahasths and belittling the householders.Of course it could be I who has failed to understand those lines fully. In 'Complete Works of Vivekananda' Vol. 5,the Swami says " its impossible for householders to realise Brahmo as being in the world and realising Brahmo are two mutually contradictory things. " Similarly, in another Volume he says that he won't trust God if Narayan comes in the form of householders.What did Swami Vivekananda mean in this passages? Haven't many exalted people whom we regard as GOD incarnate like Ramchandra ji, Shri Krishna themselves had been houselholders though they still did their duties towards the world.If the author of 'Geeta' which preaches renunciation and union with Brahmo himself can be a householder,how could the Swami say what he said. Moreover in all ages there have been men who had been householders but still served the world and had a great message for the world.In our own age we can take example of Gandhiji and others. Similarly there have been a number of Sanyasis who have been embodiments of egoism,demanding obeisance,having self-vanity, which is just opposite to the goal of spiritual realisation. There have been Sanyasis in India right from Vedic ages.Then why did vices like untouchability and Sati prevail in India and were condoned and in many cases practised by these Sanyasis. What I am saying is that the duty of a Sanyasi is different from the duty of a householder,they both can be great in their own right.Their greatness should be judged by how they perform their own duty. Regards, Vinayak Check out Shopping and Auctions for all of your holiday gifts! Check out Shopping and Auctionsfor all of your holiday gifts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 I feel, Grihastha can go up to Savikalpa Samadhi, i.e. realize and have the vision of His Ishta, (this in itself is a great achievement, albeit very very very difficult). However, if a grihastha sadhaka achieves the highest transcendental consciousness, and reaches the highest state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi, he might not be able to return again to human plane of consciousness. His body falls down as the ripe fruit or the aged leaf within 21 days. * c s shah http://www.geocities.com/neovedanta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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