[Sri Ramakrishna] Sri Ramakrishna & Siva Mahimnah

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Dear Sri Karthikeyan,

 

One can also make references to the scriptures where Shiva

utters the taraka/moksha mantra 'Rama' in the ears of the dying, esp.

in Varanasi!

 

Thakur himself, in his last moments, removed Sw.

Vivekananda's doubt about himself by saying 'One who was Rama, and

Krishna, was now born as Ramakrishna', and that he would leave the

world's stage as soon as he is 'recognised'.

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ramakrishna, " Karthikeyan C S " <metcsk@r...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sri.Sunder,

> I agree completely with you.

> That question was posed not to satisfy the mind(intellectual).It

was just to emphasize that all the sages or gods,whoever were born

and realised their selves, are same.

> I completely surrender to both of them.

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramananya

> Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramakrishnaya.

>

> Sincerely yours,

> Karthikeyan

>

>

> On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 sunderh wrote :

> > Namaste,

> >

> > It is futile to grope for 'intellectual'

> > explanations for

> > various devotees' different interepretations. God

> > provides for

> > everybody's taste [ruchiinaaM vaichitryam .]

> >

> > Both have exemplified the Unity of Hari and Hara

> > by their

> > personal dialogues. As both emphasised, " reach the roof

> > by whatever

> > means; you will eventually find that the means are no

> > different than

> > the end!! "

> >

> > Thakur's 108 names have:

> > 'gayaa-vishhNu-udbhvayaaya namaH' as

> > the 3rd name, and 'aadinaathaaya namaH' as the 40th.

> >

> > Both gave 'darshan' to their devotees according

> > to their

> > 'ishhTa devataa'.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Sunder

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Ramakrishna, " Karthikeyan C S "

> > <metcsk@r...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sri.Sunder,

> > > I read the whole article about Bhagvan Sri

> > Ramankrishna as the

> > manifestation or incarnation of Lord.Siva.

> > > In this case, what do you say about Bhagvan Ramana

> > Maharshi who is

> > also worshiped as the incarnation of lord siva as he

> > was actually

> > living in a place where lord shiva lived (according to

> > tamilnadu

> > people).

> > >

> > > Looking forward to hearing from you.

> > >

> > > Sincerel yours,

> > > Karthikeyan

> > >

> > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 sunderh wrote :

> > > > Namaste,

> > > >

> > > > There is a good description of this episode

> > at

> > > > URL:

> > > >

> > > > http://www.koausa.org/KoshSam/Ramakrishna.html

> > > >

> > > > The school-days drama episode is recounted

> > in

> > > > Sw.

> > > > Saradananda's Biography of Sri Ramakrishna [p.65]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Gadadhar was once called upon to act as Siva on

> > > > Sivaratri night in a

> > > > dramatic performance at the house of Sitanath Pyre.

> > The

> > > > boy who was

> > > > to act as Siva had fallen ill. Gadadhar's friends

> > > > dressed him up as

> > > > Siva, smearing his body with ashes, hanging

> > Rudraksha

> > > > beads around

> > > > his neck, adorning his head with matted locks and a

> > > > crescent moon,

> > > > giving a trident for him to hold in his hand and so

> > on.

> > > > The young

> > > > boy's mind soared into divine consciousness and he

> > > > entered the stage

> > > > with slow and measured steps.

> > > >

> > > > Gadadhar then stood motionless on the stage and the

> > > > audience felt

> > > > that Siva Himself was standing before them. The

> > young

> > > > boy was totally

> > > > lost in the great sublimity of Siva. The audience

> > went

> > > > into raptures.

> > > > Some cried out the names of Hari, the women uttered

> > the

> > > > auspicious

> > > > sound of 'ulu' and some blew conch shells. It was

> > as if

> > > > everyone had

> > > > been transported to Kailasa, the celestial abode of

> > > > Siva !

> > > >

> > > > Gadadhar stood in the same posture for a long time

> > with

> > > > tears flowing

> > > > down his cheeks; he neither spoke nor moved. Two or

> > > > three elderly

> > > > people went to the boy and saw that his hands and

> > feet

> > > > were

> > > > insensitive and that he had no external

> > consciousness.

> > > > After some

> > > > cornmotion, the play was stopped and Gadadhar was

> > taken

> > > > home by his

> > > > friends. His divine ecstasy didn't come to an end

> > that

> > > > Sivaratri

> > > > night, inspite of all efforts by others such as

> > > > uttering the name of

> > > > Siva into his ears. It is said that Gadadhar

> > regained

> > > > normal

> > > > consciousness the next day after sunrise. Some say

> > that

> > > > he was in

> > > > that ecstatic state continuously for three days.

> > > >

> > > > Siva Incarnate

> > > >

> > > > The birthday of Sri Ramakrishna falls on the second

> > > > lunar day, three

> > > > days after the Sivaratri. If it was true that the

> > young

> > > > boy Gadadhar

> > > > was continuously in samadhi for three days from

> > that

> > > > Sivaratri night,

> > > > it means that he regained normal consciousness only

> > on

> > > > his own

> > > > birthday, which is now celebrated by devotees as

> > Sri

> > > > Ramakrishna

> > > > Jayanti. Thus Sri Ramakrishna's impersonation of

> > Siva

> > > > and his

> > > > absorption for three days in Siva- consciousness at

> > the

> > > > age of nine

> > > > directly links the holy Sivaratri with Sri

> > Ramakrishna

> > > > Jayanti. Thus

> > > > Sri Ramakrishna was none other than Siva Incarnate,

> > > > which fact was

> > > > palpably felt by all the pious souls who were

> > fortunate

> > > > to witness

> > > > his dramatic impersonation of Siva on that holy

> > > > Sivaratri night.

> > > >

> > > > Sri Ramakrishna does not appear to have engaged

> > himself

> > > > in any

> > > > special sadhana with a view to realise Siva, though

> > he

> > > > performed

> > > > sadhana to realise deities like Kali, Rama and

> > Krishna.

> > > > He seems to

> > > > have realised Siva without any effort on his part

> > at

> > > > the age of nine

> > > > on the Sivaratri day; like many other spiritua1

> > > > experiences of Sri

> > > > Ramakrishna, his absorption in the mood of Siva

> > also

> > > > lasted for three

> > > > days then.

> > > >

> > > > Sri Ramakrishna also realised Siva as a corollary

> > to

> > > > his realisation

> > > > of the Divine Mother Kali, since Siva and Sakti are

> > > > inseparable; in

> > > > fact, the deity Dakshineswar Kali worshipped by him

> > > > stands on the

> > > > prostrate image of Siva. Thakur's devotion to Siva

> > and

> > > > his knowledge

> > > > that Siva resides in all beings seem natural and

> > > > spontaneous like the

> > > > manifestation of the 'Swayambhu Linga' of Siva,

> > which

> > > > is a self-

> > > > sprung emblem of Siva with its roots going as far

> > as

> > > > Benares.

> > > >

> > > > In the whole of India, there are twelve most holy

> > > > Sivalingas known as

> > > > Jyotir-Lingas, the manifestations of Siva in the

> > form

> > > > of emblems

> > > > representing light. In the Dakshineswar temple also,

> >

> > > > twelve temples

> > > > of Siva have been constructed in a row by Rani

> > Rasmani,

> > > > who perhaps

> > > > had in mind the twelve Jyotirlingas. Sri

> > Ramakrishna

> > > > himself was a

> > > > living Jyotirlinga of Siva as he was the embodiment

> > of

> > > > divine light

> > > > which arose out of Jugi's Siva Temple of

> > Kamarpukur.

> > > > Thus it is no

> > > > wonder that Thakur was much devoted to the twelve

> > > > 'Jyotir Lingas' or

> > > > Siva installed at Dakshineswar.

> > > >

> > > > The 'Siva-Mahimna Stotra' composed by Pushpadanta

> > is

> > > > the most popular

> > > > hymn on Siva in North India. Sri Ramakirshna

> > certainly

> > > > knew it by

> > > > heart. One day he was reciting this hymn in one of

> > the

> > > > twelve Siva

> > > > temples at Dakshineswar when he came to the

> > following

> > > > verse:

> > > > " Asitagirisamam syat kaijalam sindhupatre

> > > > Surataruvarasakha lekhani

> > > > patramurvi; Likhati yadi grihitva Sarada sarvakalam

> > > > Tadapi tava

> > > > gunanamisa param na yati. "

> > > > which means: " Oh Lord, if the blue mountian be the

> > ink,

> > > > the ocean the

> > > > ink-pot, the biggest branch of the heavenly tree be

> > the

> > > > pen, the

> > > > earth the writing leaf and taking these if Sarada,

> > the

> > > > goddess of

> > > > learning, writes for eternity, even then the limit

> > of

> > > > Your virtues

> > > > will not be reached. "

> > > >

> > > > Reciting the aforesaid verse, Sri Ramakrishna

> > entered

> > > > into an

> > > > ecstatic mood and cried out again and again, " O

> > Great

> > > > God, how can I

> > > > express your great glory? " All came running towards

> > > > that spot hearing

> > > > the cries of Thakur. Mathur Babu was in the temple

> > at

> > > > that time.

> > > > Hearing the uproar, he also came and prevented

> > others

> > > > from removing

> > > > Sri Ramakrishna forcibly from the Siva temple.

> > Mathur

> > > > had already

> > > > formed a high opinion about Sri Ramakrishna by that

> > > > time. When Thakur

> > > > came down to normal consciousness and saw the crowd,

> > he

> > > > asked Mathur

> > > > whether he had done anything wrong. Mathur saluted

> > him

> > > > and said, " No,

> > > > Ba Ba (father), you were reciting a hymn: I stood

> > here

> > > > lest some one

> > > > should disturb you unthinkingly. " Thus Mathur Babu

> > > > protected and

> > > > served Thakur in all possible ways for fourteen

> > years

> > > > like Nandi who

> > > > eternally serves Lord Siva. Truly Mathur Babu and

> > > > Hriday were to Sri

> > > > Ramakrishna, what Nandi and Bhringi are to Siva. At

> > > > another time,

> > > > Mathur Babu actually saw Sri Ramakrishna as Siva

> > and

> > > > Kali

> > > > alternately, as Thakur was pacing up and down.

> > > >

> > > > The verse from the Siva Mahimna Stotra which was

> > > > recited again and

> > > > again by Sri Ramakrishna is eminently applicable to

> > his

> > > > own life. Sri

> > > > Ramakrishna himself is the Siva of this age, whose

> > > > glories so many

> > > > writers and poets are finding it difficult to

> > express

> > > > in words ! The

> > > > words 'Sarada Sarvakalam' in the aforesaid hymn are

> > > > very apt. The

> > > > Goddess Sarada Herself was actually born as the

> > Holy

> > > > Mother Sri

> > > > Sarada Devi and was tirelessly repeating the

> > glories of

> > > > Ramakrishna-

> > > > Siva 'Sarvakalam' (at all times); still the limit

> > of

> > > > his virtues

> > > > could not be reached.

> > > >

> > > > Sri Ramakrishna could not worship for long the

> > twelve

> > > > Sivalingas in

> > > > the Dakshineswar temple which are called Yogeswar,

> > > > Jatneswar,

> > > > Jatileswar, Nakuleswar, Nakeswar, Nirjareswar,

> > Nareswar,

> > > > Nandiswar,

> > > > Nageswar, Jagadiswar, Ja1eswar and Yajneswar. Among

> > > > these twe1ve

> > > > Sivas, Jagadiswar (literal1y, Lord of the world)

> > seems

> > > > to be

> > > > especially important, as the real name of the Kali

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > Dakshineswar temple is 'Sri Sri Jagadiswari

> > Mahakali.'

> > > > Sri

> > > > Ramakrishna himself was Jagadiswar-Siva who

> > actually

> > > > realised that

> > > > the Jagad (world) itself is Iswara (Siva). He said

> > " One

> > > > day while

> > > > worshipping Siva I was about to " a bel- leaf on the

> > > > head of the

> > > > image, when it was revealed to me that this Virat,

> > this

> > > > Universe,

> > > > itself is Siva. After thst my worship of Siva

> > through

> > > > the image came

> > > > to an end. " But he used to send his young disciples

> > to

> > > > the twelve

> > > > Siva temples for meditation.

> > > >

> > > > Siva is said to be in Bhava Samadhi during day time

> > and

> > > > in Nirvikalpa

> > > > Samadhi at night. Sri Ramakrishna's time was also

> > spent

> > > > in various

> > > > types of Samadhi. He ever dwelt in the state of

> > > > Bhavamukha, which is

> > > > the threshold state between samadhi and normal

> > > > consciousness. Swami

> > > > Sivananda has stated that whenever songs on Siva

> > were

> > > > sung in the

> > > > presence of Sri Ramakrishna, he entered into

> > ecstasies

> > > > close to the

> > > > Nirvikalpa Samadhi. Once songs on Siva were

> > > > continuously sung and

> > > > Thakur entered deep into Nirvikalpa. Thereafter he

> > gave

> > > > instructions

> > > > that songs on Siva should be fo11owed by songs on

> > tbe

> > > > Divine Mother-

> > > > so that his mind could come down easily from

> > Nirvikalpa

> > > > Samadhi.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sunder

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ramakrishna, DEVINDER AHUJA

> > <devahuja>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In the preface to Siva Mahimnah Stotra by Swami

> > > > Pavitrananda

> > > > (Advaita Ashram) he mnetions that Sri Ramakrishna

> > once

> > > > went into

> > > > Samadhi reciting the Siva Mahimnah Stotra.

> > > > > Is this appearing anywhere in the Gospel ?

> > > > > Sunder.......may I trouble you with a special

> > > > research effort on

> > > > this ? God bless you.

> > > > >

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