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We should be more concerned with what comes out of our

mouths then what we put in them (to paraphrase Jesus).

 

Thich Nhat Hanh says;

" The words we speak can create love, trust, and

happiness around us, or a hell. We should be careful

what we say. If we tend to talk to much, we should

become aware of it and learn to speak less. We must

become aware of our speech and the results of our

speaking.....

 

Do not say untruthful things for the sake of personal

interest or to impress people. Do not utter words that

cause division and hatred. Do not spread news that you

do not know to be certain. Do not criticize or condemn

things that you are not sure of. Always speak

truthfully and constructively. Have courage to speak

out about situations of injustice, even when doing so

may threaten your own safety... "

 

We can also quiet our minds by speaking less- many

great Gurus including Buddha, Ramana Maharishi, etc.

rarely spoke. The transmitted Truth through

Silence.......

 

Sri Ram Jai Ram Jai Jai Ram

 

--- Jai~ Raam <jai_raam wrote:

>

> Namaskar...

>

> As far as i can recall, Prof JC Bose conducted

> experiments on plants and his

> experiment proved beyond doubt that plants

> experience severe trauma not

> merely when you 'hurt' them, but also when you THINK

> of hurting them...they

> are as sensitive as animals.. if not more

>

> and so there is a fallacy in adopting a 'holier than

> thou' attitude merely

> because one is a vegetarian on that ground...

>

> perhaps non-vegetarianism gives rise to greater

> passions which is a negative

> trait for the spiritual life, but then again so many

> GREAT ONES have been

> non-veg and have attained the highest....

>

>

> speaking of all this i am reminded of that lioness

> in Kenya that adopted an

> orphaned baby oryx(like an antelope) for several

> weeks. THe lioness would

> not dare even go to hunt for food and feed herself

> as she was afraid of

> leaving this poor 'cub' alone. One day, however, she

> found to her dismay,

> when she had just left the presence of the oryx for

> a few minutes that a

> male lion had gone for the oryx's jugular and made

> an apertif of that

> bovine....

> The lioness apparently grieved for a while but,

> according to today's papers

> that same lioness has adopted ANOTHER baby oryx...

>

> (you know what i think...it is that same oryx reborn

> and they are soul-mates

> through eternity....!)

>

> THis true story kind of puts a spanner on the

> thought that only strict

> non-vegetarianism is incapable of producing

> compassion....

>

> This story is so like the fable of the lion cub

> thinking itself to be

> sheep...but this lioness seems not to have learnt of

> its 'divinity'

> witihin...

>

> :)

>

> Regards and Pranaams

>

>

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Namaskar RD

i would be grateful if you could let me know which book you got this quote

from...

 

 

 

>

>We should be more concerned with what comes out of our

>mouths then what we put in them (to paraphrase Jesus).

>

>Thich Nhat Hanh says;

> " The words we speak can create love, trust, and

>happiness around us, or a hell. We should be careful

>what we say. If we tend to talk to much, we should

>become aware of it and learn to speak less. We must

>become aware of our speech and the results of our

>speaking.....

>

>Do not say untruthful things for the sake of personal

>interest or to impress people. Do not utter words that

>cause division and hatred. Do not spread news that you

>do not know to be certain. Do not criticize or condemn

>things that you are not sure of. Always speak

>truthfully and constructively. Have courage to speak

>out about situations of injustice, even when doing so

>may threaten your own safety... "

>

>We can also quiet our minds by speaking less- many

>great Gurus including Buddha, Ramana Maharishi, etc.

>rarely spoke. The transmitted Truth through

>Silence.......

>

 

 

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Namaste,

 

The Biblical quote is from St. Matthew's Gospel Ch.15 : v.11

 

Thich Nhat Hanh quotation is from his book Interbeing, and other

Precepts:[at URLs]

 

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2732/thay.html

 

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/ip/sigs/religion/buddhism/introduction/pre

cepts/precept-4.html

 

 

Since we missed our dose of humor last week-end, I found an apt

article for this subject!!

 

 

THE HINDU

 

Online edition of India's National Newspaper

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2002

Education

Fortuitous use of words

 

 

English idioms have prescribed many uses for the mouth: " You can take

the words out of someone's mouth " , and " you can also put words into

his mouth " !

 

 

EVER SINCE I heard the phrase " tongue in cheek " , I have been

attempting the exercise of pursuing my tongue into my cheek. But it

doesn't seem to work. People must have created some of the idioms in

English with the agility of acrobats. I have always laughed on one

side of my mouth; and so when I try to laugh on the other side, as my

dictionary suggests I can, I never succeed. And to put ones foot in

ones mouth is equally an impossible feat, though my six-month-old

granddaughter seems to be able to do it.

 

Mouth itself is given an impressive definition in my dictionary: it

is the external orifice in head, with cavity behind it containing

apparatus of biting and mastication and vocal organs. That is indeed

a mouthful. I never realised I presented such a formidable apparatus

to people who looked at me.

 

A mouthpiece is not a piece of ones mouth any more than a tailpiece

is a piece of one's tail. But there is something called a synecdoche,

which is defined as a part for the whole: so we may say that someone

has six mouths to feed, meaning he has broken family planning code

two times over.

 

The mouth has been in the news recently because of the foot-and-mouth

disease that is causing havoc in England and other European

countries. More than half a million cows have been put to sleep in

England alone. Formerly it was known as hoof-and-mouth disease. But

foot-and-mouth has little to do with foot-in-mouth. The mouth

represents the two major area of human activity — the physical and

the intellectual, mastication and articulation. The act of eating is

the primary physical activity that puts man on par with animals; and

the act of speaking sets him apart.

 

Language is man's most important, most sophisticated invention. And

on the other side, man has refined eating into a fine art. Eating is

not only a means of satisfying a basic need; eating together can be a

great social event. In fact, the word companion means one who eats

bread with you. English idiom has prescribed many uses for the mouth:

your son may be born with a silver spoon in his mouth, which means he

will be affluent for life. At the other end, you may find that you

have to live a hand-to-mouth existence since there was no silver

spoon around. Some of your experiences may leave a bad taste in your

mouth, and truth can be unpalatable.

 

You can take the words out of someone's mouth, and you can also put

words into his mouth. Politicians find foot-in-the-mouth an extremely

useful phrase. In 1988, Ann Richards, Texas Governor, targeted

presidential candidate, George Bush Sr., with the words, " Poor

George, he can't help it. He was born with a silver spoon in his

mouth. " She could have repeated the same words today, when his son,

President George W. Bush, by a fortuitous use of the word `crusade'

for the war on terrorism, caused a furore in many parts of the world.

Prince Philip of England had a word for it — dontopedology, which he

defined as " the science of opening your mouth and putting your foot

in it. " The Prince admitted he had been practising it for years. We

all have, sometimes unwittingly, sometimes advisedly.

 

The horse's mouth is the ultimate source of privileged information.

You can listen to what comes from the horse's mouth, but you are not

supposed to look into it, especially if it is a gift horse.

 

The modern equivalent would be looking for a price tag on a gift

packet you receive. There was one instance, however, in which looking

into someone's mouth was recommended.

 

Aristotle, surprisingly, maintained that women have fewer teeth than

men. He was twice married, and as Bertrand Russell remarked, it never

occurred to him to verify his statement by asking Mrs.Aristotle,

either Pythias or Herpyllis, to keep her mouth open while he counted.

 

But in the last resort, the best advise you get is to keep your mouth

shut. Cervantes said, " a closed mouth catches no flies. " " Long

before that, the Bible reminded us that it is " not what goes into

the mouth that defiles a person but it is what comes out of the mouth

that defiles. "

 

Every language has a proverb or a saying that warns against shooting

one's mouth off. Albert Einstein put it in mathematical terms — if A

equals success, then the formula is A equals X plus Y plus Z. X is

work, Y is play and Z is keep your mouth shut. Sound advice, indeed,

which prompts me to save and exit.

 

V.R. NARAYANASWAMI

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ramakrishna, " Jai~ Raam " <jai_raam@h...> wrote:

>

> Namaskar RD

> i would be grateful if you could let me know which book you got

this quote

> from...

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