RE: [Sri Ramakrishna] Origin of the Vedas

[Guest guest]

Pranams to Sister Gayatriprana ,

I understand there was a series of articles you have written on VEDAS . I am

very interested to get the entire set of mails which was published in this

Ramakrishna e-group .

 

Can you please forward to this group or mail me seperately ( if it is not

inconvinient to you ) to my e-mail -- msanjeev .

 

I this has not reached you , may the person who has recvd direct this mail to

Sister Ji !

 

 

Thanks & Pranam

 

Sanjeev

 

 

Vivekananda Centre [vivekananda]

Friday, March 01, 2002 3:19 AM

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[sri Ramakrishna] Origin of the Vedas

 

 

Further to question about the origin of the Vedas....

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~response from Sister Gayatriprana~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Dear Saud,

 

Jay has sent me your letter about the Aryan Invasion Theory and the Vedas.

My only qualification to answer you is that I have put together a

compilation of swami Vivekananda's views on the Vedas which is coming

out in stages on Jay's Website:

www.vivekananda.btinternet.co.uk/veda.htm

and which you may look at, if you wish, for more details.

 

Swami Vivekananda was an early, outspoken opponent of the

imperialistic overtones of the theory, put forward by Western

scholars when they discovered the similarities between

Sanskrit and the European languages. You will find the swami's

ideas on the theory in Part I, Section 2, Chapter 5:

Vedic Culture, posted in January of 2001.

 

There is no question that the two dominant cultural groups in

India are the Aryans and Dravidians, but just where the Aryans

came from is disputed. WEstern scholarship points to the

Caucasus or Turkey as the site from which they entered India

and maintains that at least the Rig Veda was written outside India.

The cultures of Harappa and Mohenjo Daro in North Western

India, with artefacts suggesting devotional and Mother worship,

were said to be indigenous and overrun by the Aryans.

 

Recent studies by Indian scholars have demonstrated that geographic

and astromonical references in the Rig Veda could apply to India of

that time; and also that the script on the Harappan artefacts is, in fact,

in archaic Sanskrit. So, the evidence separating the Aryans the the

Dravidians is not so clear at the moment. Perhaps genetic studies

such those which demonstrated the migrations of certain North

American Indian groups from Asian Russia could clarify the Aryan

Invasion Theory more conclusively. At any rate, at this point in time

it seems more sensible to concentrate on Aryan as a culturla form

independent of ethnic groups, as Swami Vivekananda suggests;

and to understand the great contributions made by the Dravidian

acharyas from South India who, for all practical purposes, preserved

the Vedas and Upanishads intact and brough them into the modern

world while North Inida was undergoing radical changes under

Islamic and Sineatic (especially tantric) influences.

 

These conclusions have gone into our compilation, which we invite

you to explore, if you are interested.

 

Cordially,

Sister Gayatriprana

 

 

 

 

 

Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah

Vivekananda Centre London

http://www.vivekananda.co.uk

 

 

[Guest guest]

-i hv posted this message as a reply to this message. it is not

posted here. comments please.( u said it had been accepted)

 

 

Hello I am new comer here. i am kishore , 32 ,single working as

manager in india. The history of India has been deliberately

distorted to show that we are of an inferior race. The westeners just

could not believe that we hv had a marvellous heritage. They pooh

poohed that the history existed for us and where thye could not deny

it, they just said it is of just recent origins. To start with we do

not know who has come from where, but Dravidians certainly came from

afganistan and perhaps were there in harappa. Even now, the languages

in afganistan resembles tamil. it is no mere mythological legend that

agastya has come to south to quell the hill tribal hero Meru. It is

he who has brought Tamil, taught to him by Lord siva ,to south India.

Second thing we need to look into is the time gap between these

incidents. The earlier aryans had fights with dasas- not necessarily

dravidians or locals but certainly tribals. With huge time gaps,

these dasyas had come to be tolerated by Aryans. While there was

enmity between aryans and dasyas during vedic times,this enemity has

vanished by the times of mahabharata. If there was not much time gap

between mahabharata and vedic times, this enemity would not hv

vanished. U need to remember that Satyavati, a dasya lady was not

only accepted as the queen but also that, she was not abducted or

something. Bhisma had to agree to her father's conditions before he

could marry her to his father.( Thus, the entire Kuru dynasty has

been mothered by satyavati at one end and fathered by Vyasa (her son)

at the other., both belonging to the Dasya dynasty rather than aryan

race) Compare this with the forceful abduction of Amba and her

sisters- which finally takes away bhisma's life. (It is true that if

he had abducted Satyavati, instead of amba, he would hv been the next

king and course of history would hv been different.But then aryans of

those days were tolerant to dasyas for what ever reason) I do not

know why these facts were never looked into by the so called

historians. May be they do not accept these things as history.

 

 

kishore