Untouchability

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Dear Mohana Rao Garu,

 

Love and Love alone....

 

Many thanks for your reply, which is again unfortunately one-sided..

Let me clarify and also let me inform you that this is my last mail

on this subject, because if one is obsessed with a subject, for any

reason, without understanding the nicer side of the point, either due

to the present or the past experiences, if any, it is difficult to

convince. Mondivaadu Raaju kante Ghanudu is the Telugu naanudi, and

as a poet, I am sure, you know it better than anybody else.

 

Now, let me come to the point. You mentioned that " At the moment,

only a few people publish countless messages daily. " First let me

address this point to make things clear to you and one and all and

once for all in TBP. As for becoming a member of this group, I am

much younger to you, I think. Still, my contributions were found to

be useful for many in this group, for whatever might be the reason.

And, you said, two of your mails were rejected. I do not know the

reason, but I must say that there must be some important reason for

that. Whenever I posted a mail, which does not fall within the

purview of TBP, you might have observed, I always taken

the 'permission' of the Moderator of the group and given him/her the

chance to decide to allow it to go online or not. I never complained.

I am a strong believed in the saying that " whatever happens is for

good only, though apparently it may hurt me initially " . This exchange

of views also good for us, but when it becomes too much and results

in 'argument for the sake of argument only " then, I withdraw to

maintain cordiality and brotherly-relationhsip in the group, because

I also strongly believe in the poem of the great poet Vemana:

 

" Anuvu kaani chota Adhikula manaraadu

Komchemundutella Koduvakaadu

Konda Addamandu Komchamai vundadaa

Viswadaabhiraama Vinura Vema "

 

And, nobody stopped you from posting good articles in TBP afterwards,

and if you choose to stop yourself with just one or two postings, I

am sorry, you cannot blame anybody on that score.

 

Now, coming to the other point, i.e., untouchability, with which you

are so obsessed for reasons best known to you, let me say that I am

really amazed at the reason you have adduced to buttress your

argument. Hindu dharma strongly believes in " past birth philosophy "

and you cannot or for that matter any one cannot deny that. It is the

path well enshrined in Hinduisum, and if you do not believe in that,

what anybody can do?

 

Yes indeed, all perennial truths and sayings in any religion are for

eternity. This includes Hinduism, but does not exclude other

religions. You are absolutely right and I agree with you. If so, what

is the problem then? But, the truth lies how you interpret,

understand and appreciate that truth but not as you said above, " do

not bring in past birth issue " , which means you just want to discuss

the issue as per choice but on the basis of any scriptures or

dharma.. Please udnerline this point.

 

Every temple has its own rules and regulations. I am not sitting here

on judgement. But, I still feel that anything which spoils the

decency and decorum of the temple atmosphere should be stopped.

Having said that, I definitely say that every one has the right to

worship God in one's own way. There are no two opinions on that.

 

Talking about something " of a few decades ago " , what kind of a modern

person you are, which you tried to highlight in your last mail?

Question yourself, and I am sure, you will get the answer.

 

I definitely respect elderliness and have my sympathy and love for

old aged people and you are not an exception. If you are old enough,

my sincere request and suggestion to you is forget about all this

arguments and definitely " unwanted discussion " and concentrate on

your chosen God. It helps you a lot.

 

There is ONLY LOVE in Hinduism and " not more or less Love " and that

Love is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, which includes " Tyaga " . Yes, it might

be " more or less Love " in other religions including Christianity, I

think.

 

May God Bless You.

 

Love and Love alone.....

 

P. Gopi Krishna

 

" J. K. Mohana Rao " <jkmrao wrote:

--- Paritala Gopi Krishna wrote:

 

namastE /\ gOpIkRshNa gArU:

 

>

> As mentioned in my two learlier mails on this issue, Chapter IV and

> Sloka 13 of Srimad Bhagavad Gita says very clearly that the Chatur

> Varnas have been created on the basis of guna and karma alone and

not

> on any other basis.

>

If a child is born in a particular caste, is it because of guNa and

karma? But a new born baby, it has no guNa or karma. The baby was

just born and took its first gulp of air. For the rest of its life,

it has to bear the stigma of being born in a " low " caste. Please

do not bring in the " past birth " to justify the argument.

 

 

> And our great sciptures are not for just one

> period or one segment of the population. These sacared scriptures

are

> for eternity and every one on this earth.

>

All perennial truths and sayings in any religion are for eternity.

This includes Hinduism, but does not exclude other religions.

 

 

> Your argument is so lopsided that you like to highlight just one or

> two incidents to colour the whole community or society.

>

No it is not. A famous temple undertakes to bar certain people

from entering the temple and another famous temple realises that

certain people are finding it difficult to come near the Lord

and so wants to take the Lord to them. The gods in these temples

are everybody's gods, not to be shown only to a few. There may

be other countless examples in less well-known places. Let us

also not forget that in the name of this antiquated system,

we practised untouchability just a few decades ago.

 

 

> It clearly shows how biased your vews are when you said in your

post,

> and I quote, " I am sure this message of mine will not be published.

> Still it is my duty to communicate. " And, now what do you say?

>

In the past, two of my messages never made it to the net. One was

a comment and another just a pointer for a book which a reader

wanted. I do not understand why a message like the one that informs

where a book may be found must be rejected. With this experience, I

wrote those words. Comments, as long as they are not offensive and

rude and do not contain objectionable language, must be published so

that it opens up a debate. Debates enable us to understand the truth

better. At the moment, only a few people publish countless messages

daily.

 

> Have

> broader outlook, do your best and then learn to accept things as

they

> are.

>

I am a sufficiently old man and do have broader outlook which I am

trying to spread in my own way. I have been a member for the last

few years and this is only my fourth posting. I do not unnecessarily

try to engage in unwanted discussions. My interest is poetry.

I study religion for its poetry. Of course, you may find my writings

in Chandassu and racchabanda groups, as well as at

 

http://www.uramamurthy.com/mohan_gems.html

 

The last one is quite an inspiring one wherein I have communicated

an ennobling poem everyday for a period of five years. It

contains a few of my writings too.

 

Love and more love! - mOhana