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Ramana Maharshi Says Waking State Will Not Appear A Dream Till We Wake Up Into Jnana

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8-9-45 Morning

 

Another Visitor: It is said that our waking life is also a dream, similar to

our dream during sleep. But in our dreams we make no conscious effort to get

rid of the dream and to awake, but the dream itself comes to an end without

any effort on our part and we become awake. Similarly why should not the

waking state, which is in reality only another sort of dream, come to an end

of its own accord, and without any effort on our part, and land us in jnana

or real awakening?

 

Bhagavan: Your thinking that you have to make an effort to get rid of this

dream of the waking state and your making efforts to attain jnana or real

awakening are all parts of the dream. When you attain jnana you will see

there was neither the dream during sleep, nor the waking state, but only

yourself and your real state.

 

Devotee pressed Bhagavan, “But what is the answer to the question? Why

should not the waking state also pass like our dreams without any effort on

our part and land us in jnana, as a dream passes off and leaves us awake?â€

 

Bhagavan: Who can say that the dream passed off of its own accord? If the

dream came on, as is generally supposed, as the result of our past thoughts

or karma, probably the same karma also decides how long it should last and

how after that time it should cease.

 

Devotee was still unsatisfied and, as the result of further talk with

Bhagavan,and he feels that the waking state, though a sort of dream,is

clearly distinct from the dream during sleep in this, namely that during

dream it never occurs to us that it is a dream, whereas in the waking state

we are able to argue and understand from books and gurus and from some

phenomena that it may be only dream after all. Because of this, it may be

our duty to make an effort to wake into jnana.

 

Bhagavan says that we don’t deem a dream, a dream till we wake up, that the

dream looks quite real while it lasts; and that similarly this waking state

will not appear a dream till we wake up into jnana.Because of the above

difference between the dream and the waking states, our effort is called

for.

 

 

Source: DAY BY DAY WITH BHAGAVAN By A. DEVARAJA MUDALIAR

 

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