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else our system gets too many repeat digest messages.

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From Jagannath

jagchat01

 

It's Ok Pradeep. It was my fault to judge JK on the

basis of a few chapters of talks. What I could judge

was that he wanted his disciples to break out of the

humdrum method of thinking and think the way a jnani

would. I know he had a number of very distinguished

and learned disciples. I will try to read more about

him. In the meanwhile please keep us posted.

 

I would also like to add that we are indeed stuck to

the usual Guru-sishya parampara. But is there really a

need to break out of it especially in India? I mean

you may try it elsewhere where you are not sure about

whom to follow.

 

Many foreigners, and even Indians, try to strike out

on their own. It all depends upon the intensity of

your longing. After all saints such as Ramprasad and

Kamalakanta realised God even without the aid of a

Guru.

 

But today we have the burning example of Thakur who

chose to have a Guru for all his spiritual practices.

Perhaps He is trying to say something.

 

Regards

Jagannath

 

--- pradeepjanakiraman <pradeepjanakiraman

wrote:

> Dear Jagannath

>

> Its not a question of whether Jiddu appeals to us or

> not. He was a

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Dear Jagannath,

 

I think your original assessment of Krishnamurti was

correct. His appeal is more of an intellectual one. If

you want real Vedantic teachings, read Ramana

Maharishi, Nisargadatta Maharaj, or Swamiji. These are

real Jnanis and real Masters. There are many teachers

who are articulate, well-read, and philosophical who

have little or no Self-Realization. They can weave

elaborate webs of philosophical speculation that looks

like Jnana but is not. These teachers will not help

you understand the Self. Thakur said:

 

" I look upon pundits as mere straw. "

 

If you like intellectual gymnastics, read

Krishnamurti.

 

Ultimately, meditation will be your best teacher,

where you can directly observe and experience the

workings of the mind and Self firsthand.

 

As Buddha said on His deathbed:

 

" Be your own Light. "

 

Peace,

RD

 

--- Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda

wrote:

> May I request list members to remove all tail end

> of earlier messages when responding,

> else our system gets too many repeat digest

> messages.

> We had to edit out the tail portions from this

> message from:

>

>

> From Jagannath

> jagchat01

>

> It's Ok Pradeep. It was my fault to judge JK on the

> basis of a few chapters of talks. What I could judge

> was that he wanted his disciples to break out of the

> humdrum method of thinking and think the way a jnani

> would. I know he had a number of very distinguished

> and learned disciples. I will try to read more about

> him. In the meanwhile please keep us posted.

>

> I would also like to add that we are indeed stuck to

> the usual Guru-sishya parampara. But is there really

> a

> need to break out of it especially in India? I mean

> you may try it elsewhere where you are not sure

> about

> whom to follow.

>

> Many foreigners, and even Indians, try to strike out

> on their own. It all depends upon the intensity of

> your longing. After all saints such as Ramprasad and

> Kamalakanta realised God even without the aid of a

> Guru.

>

> But today we have the burning example of Thakur who

> chose to have a Guru for all his spiritual

> practices.

> Perhaps He is trying to say something.

>

> Regards

> Jagannath

>

> --- pradeepjanakiraman

> <pradeepjanakiraman

> wrote:

> > Dear Jagannath

> >

> > Its not a question of whether Jiddu appeals to us

> or

> > not. He was a

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear RD,

 

As I said I really haven't read much about JK. But

let's not go tread on other peoples feet. Thakur

taught us tolerance, remember?

 

I have read Bhagawan Ramana long back. I am yet to

come across any advaitin who sticks to his guns as Sri

Ramana does.

 

Regards

Jagannath

 

 

 

 

 

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