Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 Hi group, Can anyone tell me the difference between the following ways of percieving a mantra? 1)Reciting it by words through mouth.(I mean physicaly saying the mantra) 2)Reciting it in mind. 3)Listening to it(I mean listening to mantra from some one else's mouth). I want a broader explanation on this. Can any one answer me please? ________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 In this I have to point out the following: a) In doing Pooja the body is involved b) In doing Japam the speech is involved c) In doing Dhyaanam the mind is involved In Puja, the body merely can be putting flowers while the Pujari can be looking at who's coming in, who's talking, adjusting the fan etc. etc. Though this might not be the case in everyone, we observe this to be a common trend. If the Puja naamams get by-heart, then the person can mechanically be reciting it while the attention is elsewhere. In Japam, the mouth can be reciting the mantram, but the hands can be just moving something, maybe eyes could be looking all around the room, ears attentive enough to hear sounds from the neighbour's TV set etc. etc. In Dhyaanam, the mind is involved, the deity that we're meditating should be brought in the mind and it should be kept constant. One cannot say he heard some sounds when he was doing dhyaanam, that's not dhyaanam at all. So that in which the mind gets controlled the maximum is Dhyaanam. But its not easy to get to that right away. One would go through a lot of conditioning before getting there. However if Japam can be practised in such a way that is incessant, like a river flowing continuosly, it will eventually lead to Dhyaanam. The ultimate aim of all these saadhanas is to control the mind. -- pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 In a message dated 9/25/02 1:53:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time, vbhadrashetty writes: Hi group, Can anyone tell me the difference between the following ways of percieving a mantra? 1)Reciting it by words through mouth.(I mean physicaly saying the mantra) 2)Reciting it in mind. 3)Listening to it(I mean listening to mantra from some one else's mouth). I want a broader explanation on this. Can any one answer me please? My Guru stressed that the initiated would derive the most benefit from a mantra and had this to say: "Of course, the daily experience of 108 repetitions should persist. Any intensification of this--1,008 times, for instance--would be best performed at a specially auspicious day and time. The most auspicious times of day are before sunrise and at sunset. The very best place and time to perform japa is in the temple after the puja, when all is quiet. This is the most ideal surrounding to repeat japa 108 times to gain maximum benefit. When performing japa, just breathe normally. Japa may be preceded by the pranayama practice that you have been taught by your guru. Japa is a very good preparation for meditation. And you meditate on the mantra as you do the mantra. You can't meditate on the mantra without repeating the mantra inwardly. When the mantra is linked with meditation, it should be pronounced slowly so that you can meditate on each syllable of the mantra that is being repeated. You must remember that japa is the repetition of a few words or a few syllables. That is the sadhana of japa. Everything else is something else." OM Gurudeva Kanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2002 Report Share Posted September 28, 2002 Dear Mr. Kanda: I have read your interesting query. Although I consider myself not at all fit to give you any authoritative advice, I may (with all humility) parrot what I have learnt from various books and other sources. Please don't misunderstand me. It is clear from your letter that you have been fortunate enough to receive initiation from your Revered Gurudev (my heartiest congratulations for the same). Now, having obtained a spiritual shelter at the lotus feet of you affectionate Gurudev, one should not ask anything about Japam, Sadhana etc. to anyone else. Please ask all your question to your beloved Gurudev and try to follow him blindly (without any doubt in your mind). This is the only way to succeed in the spiritual life known to me. As a general guidance, you may read the books of Rev. Shrimat Swami Yatishwaranandaji Maharaj. His books are full of enlightening ideas which will help you immensely. Wish you all success in your spiritual life. May Thakur, Holy Mother and Swamiji continue to protect you by all means. With regards, TP Bagchi - kandaaran Ramakrishna Friday, September 27, 2002 8:37 AM Re: [sri Ramakrishna] regarding mantras In a message dated 9/25/02 1:53:38 PM Mountain Daylight Time, vbhadrashetty writes: Hi group,Can anyone tell me the difference between the following ways of percieving a mantra?1)Reciting it by words through mouth.(I mean physicaly saying the mantra)2)Reciting it in mind.3)Listening to it(I mean listening to mantra from some one else's mouth).I want a broader explanation on this. Can any one answer me please? My Guru stressed that the initiated would derive the most benefit from a mantra and had this to say: "Of course, the daily experienceof 108 repetitions should persist. Any intensification of this--1,008times, for instance--would be best performed at a specially auspiciousday and time. The most auspicious times of day are before sunrise and atsunset. The very best place and time to perform japa is in the templeafter the puja, when all is quiet. This is the most ideal surroundingto repeat japa 108 times to gain maximum benefit. When performing japa,just breathe normally. Japa may be preceded by the pranayama practicethat you have been taught by your guru.Japa is a very good preparation for meditation. And you meditate on themantra as you do the mantra. You can't meditate on the mantra withoutrepeating the mantra inwardly. When the mantra is linked with meditation,it should be pronounced slowly so that you can meditate on each syllableof the mantra that is being repeated. You must remember that japa isthe repetition of a few words or a few syllables. That is the sadhanaof japa. Everything else is something else."OM GurudevaKandaSri Ramakrishnaye NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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