Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Dear Ones...Jesus is my chosen ideal, but there are no physically living gurus in his lineage. I have been told that Jesus IS a living master, but not in the body, and that I don't need a guru. What are your thoughts on this? I meditate using a mantra from the World Community of Christian Meditation. Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 Dear Katie, Monday, October 21, 2002 11:41 AM [sri Ramakrishna] Jesus as Ishta Deva You wrote, > Dear Ones...Jesus is my chosen ideal, but there are no physically > living gurus in his lineage. Many gurus, and many of our Swamis of the Ramakrishna Order, will initiate with a mantra for Jesus. > I have been told that Jesus IS a living > master, but not in the body, and that I don't need a guru. What are > your thoughts on this? Of course Jesus is a living master. And he is in a body, a spiritual body, which Sri Ramakrishna saw, recognized, and merged with. (The story is told in " Sri Ramakrishna The Great Master " by Swami Saradananda, p. 339.) > I meditate using a mantra from the World Community of Christian > Meditation. But more to the point, every step is important, not just gatting the mantra. Above all the friendship and guidance of a Swami is an invaluable help in spiritual life. The relationship itself is the spiritual transmission. It is highly important to have that connection with a living tradition through a relationship with someone who is already part of it, and you can do no better than the Ramakrishna Order for authenticity and integrity! Without delay the Swami will teach you how to meditate on your Chosen Ideal, and in due time mantra would be given in the context of his trusted relationship with you. So perhaps you would like to get acquainted with one of the Swamis at a Vedanta Center nearest to your place or residence. The procedure would be to call on the phone or attend a service in person, and request an interview with the Swami. Blessings, Shivaram Das --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release 10/15/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 Ramakrishna, " Shivaram Das " <conte@i...> wrote: > Dear Katie, > > > So perhaps you would like to get acquainted with one of the Swamis at a > Vedanta Center nearest to your place or residence. The procedure would be > to call on the phone or attend a service in person, and request an interview > with the Swami. > > Blessings, > Shivaram Das Thank you, dear Shivaram. I would love to go to a center, but the nearest one to me is in Chicago (which is a 3 hour drive), and I am in poor health. What would you suggest I do in the meantime? Katie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release 10/15/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Dear Ms. Katie: I was about to write the same thing in reply. But Mr. Shivaram Das has written the same thing (which I wanted to say) in a much better way. My thanks to Mr. Das for his valuable suggestions. I sincerely hope, Ms. Katie, that you are going to make wonderful progress in your spiritual striving. May Lord Jesus help you by all means. Regards. TP Bagchi - Shivaram Das Ramakrishna Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:04 PM Re: [sri Ramakrishna] Jesus as Ishta Deva Dear Katie,Monday, October 21, 2002 11:41 AM[sri Ramakrishna] Jesus as Ishta DevaYou wrote,> Dear Ones...Jesus is my chosen ideal, but there are no physically> living gurus in his lineage.Many gurus, and many of our Swamis of the Ramakrishna Order, will initiatewith a mantra for Jesus.> I have been told that Jesus IS a living> master, but not in the body, and that I don't need a guru. What are> your thoughts on this?Of course Jesus is a living master. And he is in a body, a spiritual body,which Sri Ramakrishna saw, recognized, and merged with. (The story is toldin "Sri Ramakrishna The Great Master" by Swami Saradananda, p. 339.)> I meditate using a mantra from the World Community of Christian> Meditation.But more to the point, every step is important, not just gatting the mantra.Above all the friendship and guidance of a Swami is an invaluable help inspiritual life. The relationship itself is the spiritual transmission. Itis highly important to have that connection with a living tradition througha relationship with someone who is already part of it, and you can do nobetter than the Ramakrishna Order for authenticity and integrity! Withoutdelay the Swami will teach you how to meditate on your Chosen Ideal, and indue time mantra would be given in the context of his trusted relationshipwith you.So perhaps you would like to get acquainted with one of the Swamis at aVedanta Center nearest to your place or residence. The procedure would beto call on the phone or attend a service in person, and request an interviewwith the Swami.Blessings,Shivaram Das---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release 10/15/2002Sri Ramakrishnaye NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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