Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Dear All,Namaskarams!Can anyone explain me what is the "Work" that is defined here in the below mentioned para.. Is it our day today chores mentioned here or any charity work. Please explain me. Warm regards,Shubha VenkatWhat does it say? "Work incessantly, but give up all attachment to work." Do not identify yourself with anything. Hold your mind free. All this that you see, the pains and the miseries, are but the necessary conditions of this world; poverty and wealth and happiness are but momentary; they do not belong to our real nature at all. Our nature is far beyond misery and happiness, beyond every object of the senses, beyond the imagination; and yet we must go on working all the time. Plus - For a better Internet experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 It is my understanding that "work" refers to both day to day chores (i.e., duties) and charity work; any action at all is work, with the ultimate goal of that work not a reward, but simply for it to be done, because it needs doing, or because not doing it would be to reject one's divine capability for accomplishing it. To do the "work" that is Karma-Yoga is to perform each task either self-assigned or assigned by others as if it were a sacred gift, to be treasured while it transpires, but then to be released and returned to its source. But then again, that is only my interpretation Regards John Litzenberg - Shubha Venkatraman Ramakrishna Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:50 AM [sri Ramakrishna] Regarding the term 'Work" Dear All,Namaskarams!Can anyone explain me what is the "Work" that is defined here in the below mentioned para.. Is it our day today chores mentioned here or any charity work. Please explain me. Warm regards,Shubha VenkatWhat does it say? "Work incessantly, but give up all attachment to work." Do not identify yourself with anything. Hold your mind free. All this that you see, the pains and the miseries, are but the necessary conditions of this world; poverty and wealth and happiness are but momentary; they do not belong to our real nature at all. Our nature is far beyond misery and happiness, beyond every object of the senses, beyond the imagination; and yet we must go on working all the time. Plus - For a better Internet experienceSri Ramakrishnaye NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 Dear Shubha Venkat, I'll try and attempt to answer your question. I have asked this question earlier to a couple of Swamis of RK math. The answers I received then is not what I am quoting because the meaning of those answers took years to unravel for me. When I heard them I thought them to be incoherent which they were not and are not. Lets take the later para first… " Work incessantly, but give up all attachment to work……… they do not belong to our real nature at all " Ø The fundamental thought here is that of holding the mind as the " witness " . To explain with an analogy consider you are an audience in a cinema watching a movie. The screen before you is ever changing but YOU are always remaining the same EVERY INSTANT of it. You do identify yourself with the scenes on the screen for a brief period and that is when you suffer along with it…weep, smile, are frightened….when you come out of the movie theatre you are what you were before you went inside the cinema. This is what is meant by Ø " Our nature is far beyond misery and happiness, beyond every object of the senses, beyond the imagination; and yet we must go on working all the time " so go on working (watching the movie) untill you are perfect in practice and realize YOU are a WITNESS Now coming to your earlier question " Is it our day today chores mentioned here or any charity work " Our body is an instrument of " work = karma " . The " daily chores " of we perform are the " dharma " of the body. What I mean by dharma is this.. To be wet is the dharma of water To flow is dharma of air To shine and give light by dispelling darkness is the dharma of the sun..it couldn't be anything else. Karma means action inclusive of its causes and effects. A conscious action like movement of an arm, to serve a life form, to kill etc are all Karma. This is what is meant here. I know its very long explanation but hope it is of some help. I am open to more elaboration of what I have said as I know I am incapable of shedding light on entire issue Regards Abhijit ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ramakrishna , Shubha Venkatraman <shubha_v> wrote: > > Dear All, > > Namaskarams! > > Can anyone explain me what is the " Work " that is defined here in the below mentioned para.. > > Is it our day today chores mentioned here or any charity work. Please explain me. > > > > Warm regards, > > Shubha Venkat > > What does it say? " Work incessantly, but give up all attachment to work. " Do not identify yourself with anything. Hold your mind free. All this that you see, the pains and the miseries, are but the necessary conditions of this world; poverty and wealth and happiness are but momentary; they do not belong to our real nature at all. Our nature is far beyond misery and happiness, beyond every object of the senses, beyond the imagination; and yet we must go on working all the time. > > > > > > Plus - For a better Internet experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2003 Report Share Posted April 9, 2003 My Guru's Guru Yogaswami of Sri Lanka would say "all work" and site examples of the tree, the householder, the least desirable persons in society . From this view it would mean to me that the indwelling God-Self would naturally motivate all. Love and Peace, Kanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2003 Report Share Posted April 10, 2003 Namaste, "It is my understanding that "work" refers to both day to day chores (i.e., duties) and charity work; any action at all is work, with the ultimate goal of that work not a reward, but simply for it to be done, because it needs doing, or because not doing it would be to reject one's divine capability for accomplishing it. To do the "work" that is Karma-Yoga is to perform each task either self-assigned or assigned by others as if it were a sacred gift, to be treasured while it transpires, but then to be released and returned to its source. "Work incessantly, but give up all attachment to work." ************** Reply : I agree to the reply above. Work is action assigned to us one way or other. I'd like to add that the truest of work would be work done without a trace of selfishness. And of course, it should be virtuous. Even work for charity or other good deeds should be done without expecting better life afterwards. Even a householder may do noble work by making more money if he does it with the intent of helping others in need with what he earns. The fruits of all actions should be assigned to God. Om Tat Sat Guru Venkat Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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