Guest guest Posted April 20, 2003 Report Share Posted April 20, 2003 This message came Bhattathity M P to the Vivekananda Centre The topic is very interesting. We are sending it to the list members. regards jay Vivekananda Centre London ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bhattathity M P HUMBLE REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION Do you believe this? MAN THE MAKER OF HIS DESTINY By Swamy Vivekananda (From TheComplete Works of Swami Vivekananda Volume 8) There was a very powerful dynasty in Southern India. They made it a rule to take the horoscope of all the prominent men living from time to time, calculated from the time of their birth. In this way they got a record of leading facts predicted, and compared them afterwards with events as they happened. This was done for a thousand years, until they found certain agreements; these were generalised and recorded and made into a huge book. The dynasty died out, but the family of astrologers lived and had the book in their possession. It seems possible that this is how astrology came into existence. Excessive attention to the minutiae of astrology is one of the superstitions which has hurt the Hindus very much. I think the Greeks first took astrology to India and took from the Hindus the science of astronomy and carried it back with them from Europe. Because in India you will find old altars made according to a certain geometrical plan, and certain things had to be done when the stars were in certain positions, therefore I think the Greeks gave the Hindus astrology, and the Hindus gave them astronomy. I have seen some astrologers who predicted wonderful things; but I have no reason to believe they predicted them only from the stars, or anything of the sort. In many cases it is simply mind-reading. Sometimes wonderful predictions are made, but in many cases it is arrant trash. In London, a young man used to come to me and ask me, " What will become of me next year? " I asked him why he asked me so. " I have lost all my money and have become very, very poor. " Money is the only God of many beings. Weak men, when they lose everything and feel themselves weak, try all sorts of uncanny methods of making money, and come to astrology and all these things. " It is the coward and the fool who says, 'This is fate' " — so says the Sanskrit proverb. But it is the strong man who stands up and says, " I will make my fate. " It is people who are getting old who talk of fate. Young men generally do not come to astrology. We may be under planetary influence, but it should not matter much to us. Buddha says, " Those that get a living by calculation of the stars by such art and other lying tricks are to be avoided " ; and he ought to know, because he was the greatest Hindu ever born. Let stars come, what harm is there? If a star disturbs my life, it would not be worth a cent. You will find that astrology and all these mystical things are generally signs of a weak mind; therefore as soon as they are becoming prominent in our minds, we should see a physician, take good food and rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2003 Report Share Posted April 21, 2003 Greetings! The topic of Astrology always baffles me. Sometimes they turn out to be very true. Is that pure coincidence although that seems to be unbelievable? One holy man said, " Astrology is like weather forecast. It has its own probability of occurence." Also Holy Mother usually used to refer almanac for travelling and auspicious events like pooja etc... Now she was Divine Mother Herself, then what was the necessity for her? If she was merely setting an example for us, then are we ought to believe and lead our lives based on astrology. Regards, Srikanth Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Namaste Dear Members, My personal interest in astrology has been to look at such things from a natural law perspective, the tides influenced by the solar and lunar gravitation influences as an example and the Ida and Pingala nerve currents in the body and the amount of liquid in the physical body and what influence the sun and moon have. Most of us are aware of the influence of the sun and moon from an emotional perspective, and if a study was made of the primary and secondary nerve currents the possibility of more subtle planetary influences might be detected. Nevertheless in my view Swami Vivekananda was probably pointing out that when in the Sushumna current the destiny or direction of the individual is more under the influence of Guru and God and the dynamic inner will. This would not negate the almanac for the overall influences and the personal invoking of God and Gods to create a more favorable atmosphere for our endeavors. Love, Kanda In a message dated 4/21/03 4:16:54 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mechsv writes: Also Holy Mother usually used to refer almanac for travelling and auspicious events like pooja etc... Now she was Divine Mother Herself, then what was the necessity for her? If she was merely setting an example for us, then are we ought to believe and lead our lives based on astrology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Ramakrishna , Srikanth Srigiriraju <mechsv> wrote: > Greetings! The topic of Astrology always baffles me. Sometimes they turn out to be very true. Is that pure coincidence although that seems to be unbelievable? One holy man said, " Astrology is like weather forecast. It has its own probability of occurence. " Also Holy Mother usually used to refer almanac for travelling and auspicious events like pooja etc... Now she was Divine Mother Herself, then what was the necessity for her? If she was merely setting an example for us, then are we ought to believe and lead our lives based on astrology. Regards,Srikanth Namaste, Please study all 9 chapters in Part 10 of Hindu Dharma, by Kanchi Paramacharya (1895-1994): http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part10/chap1.htm Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Yes, I am curious too why so many Hindus that I've met recently are so addicted to astrology. It seems to be an obsession. Of course the body/mind is bound by the laws of nature so the jiva must be affected by this. Is " vedic astology " really considered a science in India? By whom? What do the scriptures say about this? RD --- Srikanth Srigiriraju <mechsv wrote: > Greetings! The topic of Astrology always baffles me. > Sometimes they turn out to be very true. Is that > pure coincidence although that seems to be > unbelievable? One holy man said, " Astrology is > like weather forecast. It has its own probability of > occurence. " Also Holy Mother usually used to refer > almanac for travelling and auspicious events like > pooja etc... Now she was Divine Mother Herself, then > what was the necessity for her? If she was merely > setting an example for us, then are we ought to > believe and lead our lives based on astrology. > Regards,Srikanth > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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