Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Dear All, I came across the following lines from Swamiji's Works being discussed in the group. " He who knows the Real sees in Maya not illusion, but reality. He who knows not the Real sees in Maya illusion and thinks it real " One of the limitations of the site www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info is that the URL on top of the browser is always that of the opening page of the volume - irrespective of the page being read. The above lines are available in Vol 6 / Notes of Class Talks and Lectures / The Reality and shadow Thanks. Sincerely, Partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 These lines were posted by Partha Sinha some time ago! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ " He who knows the Real sees in Maya not illusion, but reality. He who knows not the Real sees in Maya illusion and thinks it real " The above lines are available in Vol 6 / Notes of Class Talks and Lectures / The Reality and shadow +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ i have just gone through some of the old email from the List and this one stuck in my mind! I suppose i need clarification on these lines for it does seem rather vague. It must be my understanding that is askew and i am not questioning the logic of Swamiji's statement... i am ok with the first statement... " he who knows the Real sees in Maya not illusion but reality " I can comprehend that as for an enlightened soul all is indeed the Divine Play and God cannot be restricted to the Eternal alone, He is also in the Non Eternal but the next part states " he who knows NOT the Real sees in Maya illusion and thinks it is real " Most of us are in the second category and if we know not the Real, we certainly think Maya is all there is...and so we think it is real, we certainly do NOT consider it as an illusion. Isn't there a contradiction here or is Swamiji trying to tell us something that i am missing? gr8ful thanks for any clarification _______________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Ramakrishna , " Jai~ Raam " <jai_raam@h...> wrote: > > > Most of us are in the second category and if we know not the Real, we > certainly think Maya is all there is...and so we think it is real, we > certainly do NOT consider it as an illusion. > > Isn't there a contradiction here or is Swamiji trying to tell us something > that i am missing? Namaste, The word illusion would come into operation only after gaining an insight into the Reality or Unreality of what is perceived. Swami Sivananda has given a list of illustrations : http://www.thedivinelifesociety.org/download/vedbegin.htm " Illustrations In Vedanta (Nyayas) The Vedanta Philosophy is best taught through practical illustrations of daily life, because its abstract truths cannot be understood by the finite intellect very easily. The main purport of Vedanta is that Brahman alone is real and the whole world of appearance is unreal, and that the Jiva is nothing but Brahman Itself. This abstruse theory cannot be comprehended by ordinary men of small understanding, who are immersed in the life of relativity and ignorance. They are taught this sublime Truth by means of illustrations suitable to them, so that they may fix their minds on the Reality through various angles of vision. " Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Swami Sivananda never minced words did he? it is unfair to say that those of us who do not understand are lacking in intellectual vigor...perhaps we just have not evolved enough yet but this helps thanks Sunder j >Namaste, > > The word illusion would come into operation only after gaining >an insight into the Reality or Unreality of what is perceived. > > Swami Sivananda has given a list of illustrations : > >http://www.thedivinelifesociety.org/download/vedbegin.htm > > " Illustrations In Vedanta > >(Nyayas) > >The Vedanta Philosophy is best taught through practical illustrations >of daily life, because its abstract truths cannot be understood by the >finite intellect very easily. The main purport of Vedanta is that >Brahman alone is real and the whole world of appearance is unreal, and >that the Jiva is nothing but Brahman Itself. This abstruse theory >cannot be comprehended by ordinary men of small understanding, who are >immersed in the life of relativity and ignorance. They are taught this >sublime Truth by means of illustrations suitable to them, so that they >may fix their minds on the Reality through various angles of vision. " > > >Regards, > >Sunder > > _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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