Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 With all due respect to both Pravrajika Gayatriprana and Sri Sarada Math, Gauri Ma, a disciple of Sri Ramakrishna himself, established Saradeswari Ashram at Barrakpore on the Ganges in 1895, according to his direct instructions ( " Gauri Mata " , Saradeshwari Ashrama) and with the blessings of both Holy Mother and Swami Vivekananda. It is in no way comparable to Sri Sarada Math, but mantra diksha in the Ramakrishna lineage is also given there by women. E. Tipple Ramakrishna wrote: > > Sri Ramakrishnaye Namah > Vivekananda Centre London > http://www.vivekananda.co.uk > ------ > > ====================message from Charles============== > - > " shinkai_birx " <crbirx > " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda > Wednesday, August 06, 2003 04:26 > > Re: Vivekananda on the Vedas (part 167) > > Greetings, > > Reading the question and answer writings below I would like to ask if > the Ramakrishna Mission has women learders? All the photos I see of > centers here in the USA and other countries picture men as the > leaders. Pictures of conferences show only men on the stage. It > seems that the statement, " ...the community life of religious houses > and thereby necessarily made women inferior to men... " may also > apply to Ramakrishna Mission. Do women give mantra diksha in the > Ramakrishna lineage? I do not know how the Ramakrishna Mission is > organized. Perhaps I have a wrong picture of the structure. > > Many thanks, > charles > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 5 > Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:22:59 +0100 > " Vivekananda Centre " <vivekananda > Women's Order > > Further to the email from Charles asking about the role of women in the Ramakrishan Order. We received a detailed reply from Sister Gayatriprana. We are sharing part of the response..........jay Vivekananda Centre London > > ===Response to Charles from Sister Gayatriprana================ > > Again, by definition, the Ramakrishna Order is a man’s order, started by men for men and administered exclusively by men. It does not make provision for women members. > > This was as Swami Vivekananda intended. His vision was that an order of women would come into being, started by women for women and administered exclusively by women. This was quite different from the women’s orders in Buddhism and Christianity, where there was no question of the women being independent of the men, with the unfortunate devaluation of women of which Swami Vivekananda speaks in part 167. I believe it is true to say that Swami Vivekananda’s vision of an independent women’s order is a first in the history of humankind, the first time that women’s destiny was to be put into their own hands and theirs alone. > > It was not possible for such a women’s order to be started in Swami Vivekananda’s lifetime, but he nevertheless launched the idea of such a movement in the name of Sri Sarada Devi, the spiritual counterpart of Sri Ramakrishna. He also trained up and let loose on India the Irishwoman, Sister Nivedita, who began what was to become a premier school for Indian girls and women and attracted some of the Indian pioneers of the later Indian work for women. In the 1940s-50s the school was also the training ground for a group of dedicated women who later formed the Sri Sarada Math, the women’s order run on the lines envisaged by Swami Vivekananda. > > The Sri Sarada Math, now in existence for nearly fifty years independently of the Ramakrishna Math and Mission, runs its own educational and medical institutions, famine and relief work and cultural and outreach work. The senior nuns, like the senior monks of the Ramakrishna Order, do indeed initiate and attract men as well as women. As members of an independent organization, the Sarada Math nuns are not regularly associated with the swamis and therefore appear in different venues, not featured by the Ramakrishna Order. > > For more information, please see: www.srisaradamath.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Good for you, Nalini! I somehow missed the opportunity to make that point. Yours, Yogeshananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 I am sorry, there was no attachment of Nalini's mail, therfore, I was unable to understand Swami Yogeshananda's statement. Thank you. Swami Yogeshananda <yogeshananda wrote: Good for you, Nalini! I somehow missed the opportunity to make that point.Yours, YogeshanandaSri Ramakrishnaye NamahVivekananda Centre Londonhttp://www.vivekananda.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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