Guest guest Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 Dear List The following email was received by us from Rakesh. The questions posed by him are very interesting; it will be interesting to see how the list reacts to this line of reasoning. Please reply via the list...................jay ---from Rakesh---------- Dear Sir, I'm a big fan of Swami Vivekananda & I'm grateful to read Swami's article online on your website. I've been going tru' the online book of the complete works of Swami Vivekananda for quite some time. Recently I came across the paragraph on VOLUME 1 PAGE 114 THE IDEAL OF KARMA YOGA AS FOLLOWS: " Absolute equality, that which means a perfect balance of all the struggling forces in all the planes, can never be in this world. Before you attain that state, the world will have become quite unfit for any kind of life, and no one will be there. We find, therefore, that all these ideas of the millennium and of absolute equality are not only impossible but also that, if we try to carry them out, they will lead us surely enough to the day of destruction. What makes the difference between man and man? It is largely the difference in the brain. Nowadays no one but a lunatic will say that we are all born with the same brain power. We come into the world with unequal endowments; we come as greater men or as lesser men, and there is no getting away from that pre-natally determined condition. The American Indians were in this country for thousands of years, and a few handfuls of your ancestors came to their land. What difference they have caused in the appearance of the country! Why did not the Indians make improvements and build cities, if all were equal? With your ancestors a different sort of brain power came into the land, different bundles of past impressions came, and they worked out and manifested themselves. Absolute non-differentiation is death. So long as this world lasts, differentiation there will and must be, and the millennium of perfect equality will come only when a cycle of creation comes to its end. Before that, equality cannot be. Yet this idea of realising the millennium is a great motive power. Just as inequality is necessary for creation itself, so the struggle to limit it is also necessary. If there were no struggle to become free and get back to God, there would be no creation either. It is the difference between these two forces that determines the nature of the motives of men. There will always be these motives to work, some tending towards bondage and others towards freedom. " I'M IN LOT OF DOUBTS AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE. I WANT TO KNOW THE ANS TO FOLL. QNS: 1. ARE PEOPLE BORN WITH UNEQUAL BRAIN POWERS? IF YES, THEN IT WILL BE SO DISCOURAGING FOR THOSE WHO ARE TAUNTED AS POOR LEARNERS. 2. ALSO THE SPEECH IS IN CONTRAST TO SO MANY SPEECHES WHEN SWAMIJI SAID THAT ALL PEOPLE ARE DIVINE, ARE EQUAL?? HOW CAN A MAN TRY TO IMPROVE IF HE's SAID THAT HE'S BORN WITH LESSER BRAIN POWER! 3. IF PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH UNEQUAL BRAIN POWER THAN IT CREATES PREJUDIE THAT AMERICANS/EUROPEANS ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS. I'M CONFUSED. PLZ HELP. Thanks & Regards, Rakesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2004 Report Share Posted April 18, 2004 Rakesh, The statments " we all have different brain power " and " our true nature is divine " stand independent of each other. Where did Swamiji say that a person with more intellectual abilities is more divine than the other? I am sure everyone believes that one person can be more attractive and better looking than others, but does that mean that the first person is more divine than the rest. Isn't brain, beauty, physical appearances all part of maya. Isn't karma also maya. An illusion that we are bound and not infinite. Here Swamiji is talking about how through karma itself we can remove this illusion. (How a thorn is used to remove a thorn). We are created 'unequal'so that we work toward reducing that apparent gap and hence realize our true nature (which is divine) by the means of action/karma. That is karma yoga. This is why it should not be discouraging for a 'poor learner' that he is in some way inferior to others because his true nature is equally divine as others and in trying to bridge that intellectual gap between him and the rest he will realize his true nature. If everybody was equal then there would be no progression and hence no karma, and non-progression is death. I will be fooling myself if I believe that my intellectual capabilites are equal to that of Albert Einstein, but my duty is to do the best I can, within my limitations, and limit the gap between him and me to the maximum possible extent. If all this were true then it certainly doesn't reinforce the idea that westerners are intellectually superior than others. Swamiji is the perfect example to counter this belief. In fact, when I came to US we discussed popular prejudices in one of my classes and the one for Indians was that they are good at maths. I would also take this opportnity to comment on Ramanujam's question on why Arjuna was chosen for Gita updeesh and not Bhishma. I haven't read Gita or Mahabharata but there can be several practical reasons why a future king was chosen for this message instead of an aging warrior. But more importantly, you said God sees the soul. What is the difference between Arjuna's soul and Bhishma's soul or Arjuna's soul and Duryodhana's soul for that matter? None. Isn't the nature of each soul equally divine? I think the fact that Bhishma fully knew that he is defending Adharma disqualfies from receiving God's message. I would love the group members to correct my immature thoughts. Regards, Siddharth Panwar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I think Rakesh is puzzled because on one hand Swamiji says that we all are divine, and on the other hand he says that people are unequal because of unequal brain power. We can reconcile the apparent paradox if we consider that our true nature is Brahman, but we have to realize it. So long as we have not realized Brahman, so long are we under the sway of maya, and bound by time, space and causation. In this state we are all constituted differently depending on the different combinations of gunas. Based upon the differences caused by these gunas, some have more brain power than others. I don't think any one would deny these differences; on the contrary, even the most ardent socialists would recognize such differences. What is unacceptable, however, is unequal treatment of people based on their incomes property and social status, which might have been due to the differences in their brain power. Since the ultimate nature of everyone is Brahman, one should go beyond external differences as indicated by name, religion, country, sex, caste, race, status, etc., but love everyone equally. Swamiji always advocated that we must love God in man. So, I don't see any contradiction in what Swamiji said. Umesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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