Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Yes, it's true. Householder life consumes a lot of time and presents numerous distractions. You can't even imagine until you're there- that's why so many people get ensnared. It's brutal. Many people say you can realize God regardless of your external circumstances. This may be true for some exceptional souls with spiritual samskaras from previous births. It's a very optimistic outlook. I would say don't fool yourself. Most of us will get swept away with the world's current. Jagganath, you did inspire me with your words " Sri Ramakrishna will provide liberation for all his sincere devotees. " I think about that each time I look at his picture. There is something to be said about married life if you find a partner with the same spiritual vision and aspiration. There is tremondous power in two souls approaching the Divine together. Your partner can be your guru as well. What bliss! To see Mother in your mate! Someone mentioned Stephen Levine's books about dying. Also check out his book- Embracing the Beloved : Relationship as a Path of Awakening. There are also cassette tapes that will blow your mind: To Love and Be Loved. Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' http://movies./showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hello friends, Let us not live in a world of fantacy. Let us get real! How many people in the world have the gutts to renounce everything and take up the life of a missionary? Look at the various missions today. The notoriety of many missionaries is simply shocking, although all missionaries and swamijis are not being painted with the same brush here. Many such folks are much worse than householders, since they they pretend they have control over senses, but engage in all illicit deeds to satisfy their lust and other desires and use their religious authority as a cloak for cover up! In sanskrit, there is a word called Viragyam, means total renunciation. When a person is overwhelmed by viragya, he/she does not ask any questions but simply gives up all material things and takes to spiritualism, just like Siddharth did and Ramana Maharshi did. I dont think viragya comes in bits and pieces daily! People like Ramana Maharshi, Swami Vivekananda who had real viragya, are indeed rare in the world, probably not even 0.1 per cent of the population. The rest of us are engulfed by the materailistic tendencies. So Hinduism clearly tells such people as to how to engage in spiritual practices and attain God.That is the reason HInduism speaks of four paths-Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha and the four stages: Bramhacharya, Grhasta, Vanaprastha and Sanyasa. Otherwise, Hinduism would have simply instructed everyone to take up sanyas! Yes, it is true that if you are not dedicated to spiritual practices full time, it is extremely hard to attain salvation, but a process is nevertheless available , although slow, for salvation. This indeed, is the real beauty of Hinduism. ___ > > > > ===== Incredibly low long distance phone rate: 4.5 cents pm! go to:http://www.ldpcphonemodem.cjb.net Need extra cash? Click on:www.theexplodingbusiness.cjb.net SBC - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo./sbc/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Dear Krishna, I totally agree with your view that one should proceed step by step and everyone cannot embrace brahmacharya. But Jagannathji never meant that everyone should be a brahmachari to realize God. He was eliciting the true facts and distractions of a family life and how it will distract you from realizing God. On the other hand, as he told us, a true brahmachari, living in the society or monastry, devoid of these distractions, can give his maximum to realize God. Sri Jagannathji is trying to emphasize what Sri Ramakrishna had repeatedly told us, which is, to have VYAKULATA (extreme eagerness) to realize and see God, no matter what path you take (either a bachelorhood or a family life). With Pranams, Prasad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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