Guest guest Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Hello friends, I have a question that has been bothering me for a while and since its subject somewhat matches without the current thread of discussion I thought of sharing it with everyone. The thought that attracted me towards spiritual life was " I am suffering and I need to get out of this cycle of birth and death to end suffering forever " . Since this idea formed the foundation of my beliefs I pondered over it many times and as a result I have found some contradictions that are really bothersome. When I say " I am suffering " , by " I " I am refering to the suffering of this body because I have never experienced the soul (which is supposed to be my real self). But the fact is that this " I " keeps changing as I take on other bodies. If I assume I was a person called Mahesh in my previous birth, with a different body, likes and dislike etc (basically different mind and body) then the only thing common between him and me is the soul. But each soul, being a part of the same infinite consciousness,must be identical. So if the differences and similarities between me and Mahesh are exactly same as any person walking on the street then what is that entity that has been bound by the cycle of birth and death I am trying to free? It cannot be everyone. It cannot be Mahesh because his suffering ended when his body died. It cannot be the soul because I have read about a simile in one of the Upanishads that compares our life to a tree, its branches and flowers to our experiences, talks about a restless bird on the tree(probably the subject of these experiences...our mind) as the shadow of a self-contained and blissful bird(soul) which is completed detached and unaffected by the experiences and is seated at the top of the tree. So my question is: If my successor, by the grace of God, manages to realize Him then whose suffering does he end? His, mine or Mahesh's. And there will still remain millions who continue to suffer. I would imagine that there are two ways of ending suffering. Either by eliminating the subject of suffering or by making the subject ever blissful. If upon realizing God my individuality is lost(the subject is lost) then who remains to taste the bliss? There is a fair chance that I have interpreted the above ideas incorrecty and in the case I would like the members of this group to correct me. With love and regards, Siddharth Panwar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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